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Nov 1st 2019, 04:41 PM   #16
 Transported's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2006 FZ1, 1999 R1
The folks in California would laugh at that joke with you—if they could catch a breath of clean air...
Nov 1st 2019, 05:40 PM   #17
 
  Jan 2016
  Spokane, WA

  1299 Panigale Anniversario #81/500, 2006 GSX-R 1000
This bike is really intriguing. Can't wait to see more info about it. Also really excited for the aprilia rs660.

Off topic - I'm only 33 years old, but I will never own an electric vehicle of any sort, ESPECIALLY a motorcycle. I guess they're ok for non-enthusiasts, who want to take a nap on the way to/from work.
Nov 1st 2019, 05:51 PM   #18
 
  Jan 2016
  Spokane, WA

  1299 Panigale Anniversario #81/500, 2006 GSX-R 1000
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Originally Posted by Transported
The folks in California would laugh at that joke with you—if they could catch a breath of clean air...
The factories manufacturing your beloved e-machines, and the batteries to go with them will clear that right up in no time. What's your cure for the forest fires that pollute the air every year?
Nov 1st 2019, 07:38 PM   #19
 Greg's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  PDX

  L3 GSX-R750, Versys LT
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Originally Posted by Rustydust
OK OK, I'm an old fart but I can remember when a Yamaha 250 TD1-B non street legal road racer made a screaming 36 horsepower and was the fasted quarter liter on the AMA circuit. 60 HP out of a (somewhat) docile street bike of the same displacement? Wow. Welcome to 2020.

Hey Kawasaki- how about a supercharger for this one? Now that would be cool!
I learned to ride on a 2006 carbureted Ninja 500. I'm over 200 lbs, and the antiquated bike moved quite fine even at freeway speeds. The 500 Kawi offered through 2009, hadn't been updated since 1996 and was released in the late 80's. Fast forward from 2009 to Dec 2017 and Kawi released the Ninja 400. Despite being a total budget bike, the 400 would DESTROY the 500 in any appreciable category. slightly more hp, 60lbs less, slipper clutch, etc. That to me is just as impressive!
Nov 1st 2019, 07:57 PM   #20
 liberpolly's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Aprilia Scarabeo
Give it a round headlight and I would buy it right fucking now!
Nov 1st 2019, 10:56 PM   #21
 Parilla125's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  SeaTac

Keep in mind the ‘standard’ version has 46 HP. It is the ‘high performance’ one that is slated to have 60. 46 is still pretty good for a light weight bike though. The chassis has some nice stuff on it too. I have always liked the lighter bikes. Like it is said, it is more fun to ride a small bike fast than a bigger bike slow! Big bike fast is good as well!
Nov 2nd 2019, 09:04 AM   #22
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2012 Ninja 250, Tiger 800
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Originally Posted by Ryfly
This bike is really intriguing. Can't wait to see more info about it. Also really excited for the aprilia rs660.

Off topic - I'm only 33 years old, but I will never own an electric vehicle of any sort, ESPECIALLY a motorcycle. I guess they're ok for non-enthusiasts, who want to take a nap on the way to/from work.
Have you ever ridden an electric motorcycle? It's a freaking hoot! FEEL THE POWAH! The thing wanted to blast off, and it's super smooth. That was like 4 years ago too, they're probably even better now.
Nov 2nd 2019, 10:17 AM   #23
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  Jan 2016
  NW Oregon

  R1200ST, CB350
Still waiting for those economies of scale to kick in: there's still almost nothing priced in the sweet spot of motorcycle sales around $7-10K, and that's in any reasonable universe where most of them should be, if not even a bit less.

There's no reason for an electric motorcycle to cost more than a comparable ICE, and in fact it should be a bit cheaper; there are way fewer systems overall. Broadly, an electric bike is a conventional bike after you throw away the engine, gearbox, fueling and exhaust systems, and simply scale up the starter motor and battery by a factor of a whole bunch. Yeah, it's a little more complicated than that, but the part about throwing out a lot more than you add is still true.
Nov 2nd 2019, 11:04 AM   #24
 Parilla125's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  SeaTac

https://www.cscmotorcycles.com/defau...=xNewInventory

Grom sized electric from CSC direct sales motorcycles. $2500. CSC bikes are generally getting good reviews. They have a range of smaller bikes and are available as rentals in some areas.
Nov 2nd 2019, 11:57 AM   #25
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2006 FZ1, 1999 R1
^^^Not quite yet...

“Top speed is 46.6 mph (depending on rider weight.) Riding range is dependent on speed – that is, higher speeds drain the battery faster. Riding around town at 20 mph will give you an approximate 62-mile range. That is huge for an electric motorcycle! Riding faster at 37 mph will reduce the range to about 37 miles. All this translates to a “blended” range of 40 to 50 miles in normal fast and slow city driving.”
Nov 2nd 2019, 12:00 PM   #26
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2006 FZ1, 1999 R1
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Originally Posted by Ryfly
Off topic - I'm only 33 years old, but I will never own an electric vehicle of any sort, ESPECIALLY a motorcycle. I guess they're ok for non-enthusiasts, who want to take a nap on the way to/from work.
Then you will be walking in a few short years.
Nov 2nd 2019, 12:39 PM   #27
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
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Originally Posted by Transported
Then you will be walking in a few short years.
Funny, electric cars have been touted as the "near future" , and the death of IC engines, for many decades. Still hasn't happened. Don't see it happening, unless through governmental interference, for some time. They may be okay for the urban jungle, but the majority of the country is not that environment. Spend some time driving across the country and you will see that there is no way even a medium range electric would be viable in most of it.
Nov 2nd 2019, 12:52 PM   #28
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2006 FZ1, 1999 R1
This is not The Jetsons we’re talking about here. This is the survival of the species, of all species. If we don’t move completely away from all carbon output in the next decade we are literally toast.

As Greta says, read the science. This is beyond politics or economic theory. This is the new reality. Governments will be lucky if they can keep up and not overturned. It is already happening. The Arab Spring and mass migrations are just a teeny early taste of what is coming.

And I have been all over this country by bike and car. I know we will be extremely inconvenienced in travel. Just as we will have to give up jet flights very soon.
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Nov 2nd 2019, 02:52 PM   #29
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  Sep 2017
  milwaukie oregon

  gsxr600 gsxr750 gsxr1000 i like gsxrs
The hard decision isnt the removal of fosil fuels its the fact that this earth will only support about 1-1.5 billion people on the long run and were at 8+ billion. Our earth is polluted and so is the gene pool.

Edited by unicykle on Nov 2nd 2019 at 08:26 PM
Nov 2nd 2019, 08:41 PM   #30
 MikeMikeMike's Avatar
 
  Feb 2016
  Seattle

Lol at all of this. You guys missed a great read...

https://www.amazon.com/Population-Bo.../dp/1568495870

To paraphrase ...

65 million Americans would die of starvation between 1980-1989 and that by 1999, the US population would decline to 22.6 million

You are just the latest useful ... uh ... people in a long string to believe utter crap. But please live your lives in small bubbles and leave the fun and adventure to the rest of us.

Here is a series of short term prediction that are testable:

The Democrats will nominate a far left zealot because their supporters live in a far left echo chamber.

That nominee will lose to Trump.

America’s environmental policies will not change.

The latest wave of stupid claims made about the environment will turn out to be false, and nobody will mention that when the next wave of hysteria hits.
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