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Apr 17th 2018, 05:51 PM   #1
 
  Mar 2018
  Gig Harbor

  2008 BMW R1200GS Adventure
Exclamation VROD - Salvage ($595) or No? Photos of damage added.

Not sure what the cost would be, but I'm contemplating turning my first motorcycle accident into a new project for myself. It could end up being both a rider & mechanic learning experience!

It was about a 20mph low side on wet roads. The headlight was ripped off and the handlebars were broken in half. When the handlebars broke, they smashed in the airbox cover pretty badly.

But other than that, the damage is all scuffs and scrapes. The engine has just over 9000 miles and was running flawlessly. The wheels, forks, and engine didn't look like they took any damage.

Would you buy it back? What would be your limit? I do have to buy another motorcycle now, so I can't afford to dump a ton into buy back a broken bike, but I like the idea of working on it in the garage with my son (10 years old).



Update:

I can take $1500 after deductible and lien is paid.

Or I can pay $595 and get the bike with a salvage title.



NEW UPDATE:

So I was planning on paying to Salvage it. Called the shop and they told me there was "a lot of/extensive" frame damage. Some damage to the removable part of the frame, but also to the non-replaceable section (his words).

I'm not a mechanic by any means, but I'm not really seeing extensive frame damage from these photos. These photos are the ones they sent to the insurance company.

What do you guys thing?
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Edited by Didley on Apr 19th 2018 at 02:30 PM Reason: additional photos/info.
Apr 17th 2018, 05:58 PM   #2
 Bowermad's Avatar
 
  Feb 2018
  Bend, OR

Yes, or offer it to another on the forum here for the buy back price. It used to cause a fight at the dealerships to see who would get second choice to buy back a bike the customer passes up. If the motor, frame, forks are good, then do it if the price is right.

It is a great thing to learn and teach about. My sonís 9 and we have been rebuilding a wrecked 848. Iím pretty sure he knows more about Ducatiís than most average adults thanks to this process.
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Apr 17th 2018, 06:08 PM   #3
 
  Mar 2018
  Gig Harbor

  2008 BMW R1200GS Adventure
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Originally Posted by Bowermad
Yes, or offer it to another on the forum here for the buy back price. It used to cause a fight at the dealerships to see who would get second choice to buy back a bike the customer passes up. If the motor, frame, forks are good, then do it if the price is right.

It is a great thing to learn and teach about. My sonís 9 and we have been rebuilding a wrecked 848. Iím pretty sure he knows more about Ducatiís than most average adults thanks to this process.
That's awesome. He definitely knows more about Ducati than me.

I also have my oldest daughter (7) who is ALL about spending time with daddy. Even moreso than my son, lol. So it would be good bonding times for her as well.
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Apr 18th 2018, 08:40 AM   #4
 VeritasImageryNW's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
Heck yes, buy it back. My current Harley was a total. All I had to do on it was replace right side grip, rear turn signal, brake lever and pedal, and then fix the dent in the tank. And I was buying the bike from the shop next door, but did all the work myself. Total investment was $4500 on a bike with less than 5,000 miles, that was worth $9,500 at the time.
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Apr 18th 2018, 09:44 AM   #5
 VeritasImageryNW's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
The biggest thing with a "total" is that you pretty much have to expect to keep it after you fix it up. Having that "rebuilt" title kills its resale value. So before you jump on buying it back, ask yourself if this is a bike you want to hang onto long term, or are willing to sell it for a seriously reduced price later on.
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Apr 18th 2018, 02:03 PM   #6
 
  Mar 2018
  Gig Harbor

  2008 BMW R1200GS Adventure
Ok... numbers are in.


I can get $1500 back in cash after they pay off the lien and after my $1000 deductible (I know, I know...).

OR

I can pay $595 out of pocket and get it with the salvage title.

Leaning towards the salvage!
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Apr 18th 2018, 02:18 PM   #7
 Sentinel's Avatar
 
  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
the question to me is like this - if that exact bike was on CL for that price, would you buy it?
Apr 18th 2018, 02:23 PM   #8
 
  Mar 2018
  Gig Harbor

  2008 BMW R1200GS Adventure
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Originally Posted by Sentinel
the question to me is like this - if that exact bike was on CL for that price, would you buy it?
For sure. It's rideable again after new handlebars and a headlight. The $1500 will just get taken by my wife anyways, lol.
Apr 18th 2018, 03:49 PM   #9
 Skiffman's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Kitsap

  Yamaha Venture --Victory Octane
Hell a Vrod with branded title must be worth $4-5000 anyways.., not hard math. Noticed the HD's onClist aren't moving too fast though....,
Apr 18th 2018, 05:18 PM   #10
 
  Mar 2018
  Gig Harbor

  2008 BMW R1200GS Adventure
Update: checked with Eastside Harley’s shop to get more details on the extent of the damage.

They said there was extensive frame damage. Both on the repairable part and the other.

I was pretty surprised it was that bad. It was a pretty slow low side.

Edited by Didley on Apr 19th 2018 at 04:47 PM
Apr 18th 2018, 07:30 PM   #11
 VeritasImageryNW's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Didley
Update: checked with East Side Harleyís shop to get more details on the extent of the damage.

They said there was extensive frame damage. Both on the repairable part and the other.

I was pretty surprised it was that bad. It was a pretty slow low side.
I wonder if it twisted the neck. Which is weird cuz my first Harley, an 07 Sportster 1200C, went nose first into a Ram pickup, and simply folded the forks. The frame itself was good.
Apr 18th 2018, 08:24 PM   #12
 Skiffman's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Kitsap

  Yamaha Venture --Victory Octane
Time to move on....,
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Apr 19th 2018, 04:48 AM   #13
 
  Mar 2018
  Gig Harbor

  2008 BMW R1200GS Adventure
Quote:
Originally Posted by VeritasImageryNW
I wonder if it twisted the neck. Which is weird cuz my first Harley, an 07 Sportster 1200C, went nose first into a Ram pickup, and simply folded the forks. The frame itself was good.

Yeah. My dad (half-joking) said the guys at the shop probably just wanted to be the ones to get the salvage, so they made it sound worse than it is. Lol.

I asked for the photos of the damage that the shop sent to the insurance company but Iím sure they were honest about the damage.
Apr 19th 2018, 08:34 AM   #14
 Dash Riprock's Avatar
 
  Apr 2018
  N Idaho

  Yamaha 650
I'm really sorry to hear about your bike, V-Rods are bad ass. Frame damage would make me nervous, I don't know the ins and outs of fixing it, but if you really think teaching your kids to wrench on it and bonding over the experience is a possibility, then I would consider it, even if I only ever broke even or used the bike to make grocery runs. Sorry for the cliche but that sort of thing is priceless.

That being said I personally steer clear of salvage title bikes, if I kept it I would not think of the investment being in the machine.
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Apr 19th 2018, 02:08 PM   #15
 
  Mar 2018
  Gig Harbor

  2008 BMW R1200GS Adventure
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Originally Posted by Dash Riprock
I'm really sorry to hear about your bike, V-Rods are bad ass. Frame damage would make me nervous, I don't know the ins and outs of fixing it, but if you really think teaching your kids to wrench on it and bonding over the experience is a possibility, then I would consider it, even if I only ever broke even or used the bike to make grocery runs. Sorry for the cliche but that sort of thing is priceless.

That being said I personally steer clear of salvage title bikes, if I kept it I would not think of the investment being in the machine.
Yeah. I'd be OK with a salvage title if I knew what happened to cause the salvage. Frame damage isn't something I want to mess with.

That said, I requested the same photos the shop sent the insurance company and they just sent them. I'm reserving judgment until I have a chance to look at them on something other than my phone, but at first glance I'm getting ready to call BS on the frame damage claim.

I've got a temper and I'm a little quick to anger sometimes, so I'm trying really hard to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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