Instagram     

Go Back   PNW Moto > PNW Moto > Motorcycles

Motorcycles For topics and discussions about all motorcycle makes and models

Like Tree7Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Jan 9th 2018, 09:35 AM   #16
 VeritasImageryNW's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Guy
WAC 201-10-026 is the standard the WSP has adopted for approved eye protection.

Nothing is cut and dried in the RCW. Nothing.

Exactly. The RCW doesn't provide a standard as to what constitutes a "windshield", therefore it comes down to interpretation of the individual LEO and judge.

And that is exactly what the Trooper told us regarding the green LED underglow on my daughter's 250 Ninja. Based on the intent of the law her lights were illegal, but based on the letter they weren't. So, it is often more beneficial to write the ticket and leave it up to a judge to decide.

So, back to my previous statement, each rider has to decide whether the risk is worth the "reward". Are you willing to risk that both an LEO and a judge are going to interpret it the way you do?
Jan 9th 2018, 10:33 AM   #17
 Sentinel's Avatar
 
  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
Quote:
Originally Posted by VeritasImageryNW
Exactly. Are you willing to risk that both an LEO and a judge are going to interpret it the way you do?
nevermind

i dont really have this kind of trouble irl

Edited by Sentinel on Jan 9th 2018 at 11:05 AM
Jan 9th 2018, 11:10 AM   #18
 VeritasImageryNW's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentinel
This is how people are trained into mutual censorship and control and to voluntarily abandon their rights.

It is similar to gun control plans. Right now you have to look at maps and comb through multiple legal and semi-legal documents, declarations, injunctions, and a hundred other things to know where you can legally carry a weapon for self defense and where you can legally shoot that weapon, for example. It is also similar to fishing rules. The patchwork, the maze/zoo of different rules makes it a real risk to engage in lawful activity because you can never know when some obscure or unknown (to you) prohibition might foul you up no matter how hard you try and stay legal. In the end you might just say "fuck it" because you can't be sure, and give up your rights because of the (intentional) confusion.
No, it's called "assumed risk". It's being willing to own the fact that you choose to risk breaking the law. I don't care if you do, or not, but just don't complain about getting ticketed if it happens.

I agree that some laws are purposefully confusing, but this isn't one of those. Again, when the law was written the only motorcycle windshields were the super tall, flat, plexiglass ones. There was no need to define it any way else. So, no, this isn't about giving up any "rights".
Jan 10th 2018, 05:41 AM   #19
 Texasl's Avatar
Moderator
 
  Jan 2016
  Northeast Olalla

  07 Guzzi
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Guy
WAC 201-10-026 is the standard the WSP has adopted for approved eye protection.

Nothing is cut and dried in the RCW. Nothing.

Actually it's WAC 204-10-026

If you had been wearing your proper ocular PPE you would have been able to read the numbers better.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteN95
My dual sport helmet has both a visor, opaque and sticking out horizontal above the eye port, and a face shield, clear and hinged to cover the eye port. FYI
Ain't we special.
PeteN95 likes this.
Jan 10th 2018, 01:20 PM   #20
 Bald Guy's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Kennewick

  Triumph Explorer, Concours 1400, Husqvarna Strada, Ural Patrol and a shit load of BN125
My peepers are fine. The problem lies with my not being able to remember shit from the time I closed the WAC to the time I type it!

That and fat fingers.

Edited by Bald Guy on Jan 10th 2018 at 04:38 PM
Jan 11th 2018, 06:35 AM   #21
 Texasl's Avatar
Moderator
 
  Jan 2016
  Northeast Olalla

  07 Guzzi
I feel your pain there. My mind is a steel trap, but rusty.
Reply

  PNW Moto > PNW Moto > Motorcycles

Tags
stopped, visor



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Want To Buy: Clear visor hj-09 SmokeyMcNug Want To Buy 0 Jul 13th 2016 11:07 AM




Copyright © 2018 PNW Moto. All rights reserved.