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Jan 25th 2021, 11:19 AM   #1
 TimberMoto's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Salem, Oregon

  Supermoto Dreaming...
Help me choose a Supermoto!

So a new (at least to me) bike is on the horizon. Possibly around the beginning of this summer. I have a few bikes in mind but don't want to color the results.
The list of must-haves is as follows; Good power, not wrung out at highway speeds, reasonable seat height, not needing $2k in farkles to make it ridable, not requiring a loan from the mafia...

I'm about 5'11" with a 30'ish inch inseam. So I really don't want to fall off the damn thing at stoplights.

Realistically I'm going to have to cap the price at $10k used. I have an idea of what I want, but would like to make sure I'm not missing any good alternative choices.

The only thing I'd like to add is that I want a pure supermoto, no bikes like the Ducati Hypermotard. Think "dirt bike with turn signals and street tires", lol.
Jan 25th 2021, 01:10 PM   #2
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  Jan 2016
  Des Moines

  900SS SP, 690 SMC R, XR650R, M1200S, & GSXR750
I've had three SMs (and a Hyper) and if I could only have one it would be my XR650R conversion. Not everyone wants a 20 y/o carbureted kick-started bike though, so in that case I'd suggest picking up a used 2019 SMCR.

I've had one since new and it has been a solid bike. I like the soul/engine of my XR more, but the KTM is pretty easy to work on and the only failure has been the clutch master (which is cheap to upgrade/replace). Otherwise, it is fast, feels planted on the freeway (more than my DRZ or XR), the electronics work well and there is great aftermarket support for it.

With that said, the only other mod after the clutch master this bike needs is an upgraded seat; sounds like the KTM Powerparts one is decent and not as chunky as the Seat Concepts version. I've suffered the last few years with the OEM seat and if I'm riding every day I get used to it, but long rides hurt. I also put on a Boosterplug to smooth out the fueling at the initial throttle twist, but I think it is only necessary if you'll be doing a lot of stop and go/city riding (obviously a Power Commander works too), as the OEM bike is running on fumes when transitioning from idle to accelerating....it can be annoying.

I haven't been watching the used market on the new SMCRs, but I'm assuming they're fairly easy to find under 10k. I'd probably try to sell mine for about $8k if I was looking to do so, so would leave you $$$ for tax/licensing.

XR650R SMs are pretty bad ass though.....just sayin!!
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Jan 25th 2021, 02:59 PM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  Salem, Oregon

  Supermoto Dreaming...
Quote:
Originally Posted by paradox206
I've had three SMs (and a Hyper) and if I could only have one it would be my XR650R conversion. Not everyone wants a 20 y/o carbureted kick-started bike though, so in that case I'd suggest picking up a used 2019 SMCR.



I've had one since new and it has been a solid bike. I like the soul/engine of my XR more, but the KTM is pretty easy to work on and the only failure has been the clutch master (which is cheap to upgrade/replace). Otherwise, it is fast, feels planted on the freeway (more than my DRZ or XR), the electronics work well and there is great aftermarket support for it.



With that said, the only other mod after the clutch master this bike needs is an upgraded seat; sounds like the KTM Powerparts one is decent and not as chunky as the Seat Concepts version. I've suffered the last few years with the OEM seat and if I'm riding every day I get used to it, but long rides hurt. I also put on a Boosterplug to smooth out the fueling at the initial throttle twist, but I think it is only necessary if you'll be doing a lot of stop and go/city riding (obviously a Power Commander works too), as the OEM bike is running on fumes when transitioning from idle to accelerating....it can be annoying.



I haven't been watching the used market on the new SMCRs, but I'm assuming they're fairly easy to find under 10k. I'd probably try to sell mine for about $8k if I was looking to do so, so would leave you $$$ for tax/licensing.



XR650R SMs are pretty bad ass though.....just sayin!!
Thanks for the reply! I have been looking at both the KTM and the Husky. There are a few out there for sale. Most just a hair over $10k, but there's a smcr on Portland CL for $9300 atm.
I certainly like the idea of an xr650r, but the kickstart is a no go for me. Going to be 50 next month and my knees would rather I push a button, lol.

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Jan 25th 2021, 04:53 PM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  Hazel Dell, Wa

  Multistrada Pikes Peak, VFR800, VStrom 650, TE 610
I'm not sure why you're not considering the Hypermotard as they're awesome bikes and smoother than a single. However, with your constraints I'd absofuckinglutely choose a Husqvarna 701 supermoto over ANYTHING orange. The '17 and up have the nice counterbalancer and are unusually smooth on the pavement!
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Jan 25th 2021, 09:04 PM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  Salem, Oregon

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I'm not sure why you're not considering the Hypermotard as they're awesome bikes and smoother than a single. However, with your constraints I'd absofuckinglutely choose a Husqvarna 701 supermoto over ANYTHING orange. The '17 and up have the nice counterbalancer and are unusually smooth on the pavement!
The Hyper is just not my style. Like I said in my OP, I prefer a more dirtbike style. If they still made the XR650R and it was street legal from the factory with FI and electric start I'd be buying one and a set of 17" wheels...

The KTM and the Husky have essentially the same engine. There's only a handful of differences between the two. Like quick-shifter, cornering abs, bodywork, etc.

Most likely will buy whichever one I can find when the time comes.
Jan 25th 2021, 09:07 PM   #6
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2019 Nada
this one - https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/m...257361564.html

or this one - https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/...263301775.html

I had a 2015 CRF450X supermoto last summer. Sold it.
It was just a tad too specific.

I wanted 20% more street bike and less dirt bike.

So I am also in the market for the right SM.

I don't want to spend 10K though or else it would be easy.

There are two 690 SMCR's in Portland also. They were on CL for a while. They will be back on CL in the spring. Both right around 9500 to 10k.

Same bike IMO.

I am also thinking an r-spec 690 Duke would work just as good for maybe 30 percent less money.

Harder to find tho.
Jan 25th 2021, 09:23 PM   #7
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  Jan 2016
  Salem, Oregon

  Supermoto Dreaming...
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Originally Posted by Sentinel
this one - https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/m...257361564.html

or this one - https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/...263301775.html

I had a 2015 CRF450X supermoto last summer. Sold it.
It was just a tad too specific.

I wanted 20% more street bike and less dirt bike.

So I am also in the market for the right SM.

I don't want to spend 10K though or else it would be easy.

There are two 690 SMCR's in Portland also. They were on CL for a while. They will be back on CL in the spring. Both right around 9500 to 10k.

Same bike IMO.

I am also thinking an r-spec 690 Duke would work just as good for maybe 30 percent less money.

Harder to find tho.
I don't really want to spend 10k either. But there really isn't much else out there that ticks off all the boxes for me.
I looked at doing a conversion on a XR650l or a DR650, but I'd have to dump 3k+ extra into either one to get close to the performance I would want. It's better to spend all the money at once and get what I'm really after.
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Jan 25th 2021, 11:23 PM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  Hazel Dell, Wa

  Multistrada Pikes Peak, VFR800, VStrom 650, TE 610
... and also linkage rear-end on the Husqvarna.

I've been considering selling my Husqvarna TE610 and at one time had a set of sm wheels for it. It's been said that these were the modern day XR650 for all the reasons you mention along with them having a reeeally nice transmission spread.

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Jan 26th 2021, 12:08 PM   #9
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  Sep 2016
  Salem, OR

  2008 CBR1000RR, 2017 Grom
The Husqvarna 701SM seems to be the best choice here.
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Jan 26th 2021, 01:38 PM   #10
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  PDX

  An Ape and a Husky
You are practically in the price range of a new, left over new old stock, Husky 701, or it's KTM brother; they are practically same bikes. It would be very hard to go wrong with these...

Same thing with a DRZ400SM, but it's performance will not be anywhere close to the Austrian twins.
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Jan 27th 2021, 11:01 AM   #11
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2019 Nada
which one of these and why?

https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/...266399581.html
or
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/m...257361564.html

Edited by Sentinel on Jan 28th 2021 at 10:06 AM
Jan 28th 2021, 10:08 AM   #12
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2019 Nada
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Same thing with a DRZ400SM, but it's performance will not be anywhere close to the Austrian twins.
I was really close to going to look at this one, but honestly it is a lot for a carbureted 400. If it was $1000 less....
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/...268786781.html
Jan 28th 2021, 10:59 AM   #13
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  Jan 2016
  Des Moines

  900SS SP, 690 SMC R, XR650R, M1200S, & GSXR750
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Originally Posted by Sentinel
The first question I would ask is "how was it broken in?" My anecdotal experience is that the new 701/690s burn oil if the first owner follows the manual and I'd personally pass if they went with the factory break-in procedure. That's probably a controversial stance though.

I like the 701 for its dealer installed Akra system (hopefully it came with a flash) over the 690 with the ugly Yosh (more than likely not tuned for it, and they're lean enough already...bleh). The 701 seems over-priced though by a grand. Why buy a $1500 exhaust a 150 miles ago to just sell it? Seems like the seller is taxing the buyer for the mods they installed (which is probably typical, I guess).
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Jan 28th 2021, 04:33 PM   #14
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  An Ape and a Husky
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentinel
I was really close to going to look at this one, but honestly it is a lot for a carbureted 400. If it was $1000 less....
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/...268786781.html
Those DRZs really hold their value. They are as reliable as they are ubiquitous and something akin to a small block Chevy of supermoto world. You can hot rod them to your hearts content, but it'll be hard to match those darn Euro twins in the performance department.
Jan 28th 2021, 08:53 PM   #15
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  Jan 2016
  Salem, Oregon

  Supermoto Dreaming...
If I could pick up a 2-3 year old drz for around 5k I'd probably pull the trigger. Even knowing they need some work to be woken up.
But to me their selling for more money than they're worth. I'm not paying $6500 for a 3 year old bike when I can ride a new one out the door for 1k more.
If I can find a 701 for 9k when the time comes I'll grab it. A 2018 for 10k is overpriced imo.

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