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Dec 17th 2018, 06:31 AM   #1
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HB1058 – Motorcycle parking

Current Washington State law does not permit parking more than one motorcycle in a single parallel parking spot and also requires that the bike be parked parallel to the curb.

Obviously, with the exception of a rare law enforcement officer with a really bad attitude about motorcyclists, this law is not enforced.

House Bill HB1058 would remove these unreasonable constraints and legalize sensible motorcycle parking.

https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?B...19&initiative=

If you support this common sense piece of legislation, click on the comment tab and let both of you House of Representatives member know.
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Dec 17th 2018, 07:07 AM   #2
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How much money is just pissed away making all these stupid laws, just to have to pay a load of money again to repeal them, there has got to be a better use for tax dollars.
Dec 17th 2018, 11:55 AM   #3
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Tod, has there been discussion regarding allowing motorcycles to park in the striped areas of parking lots and public parking areas? Several years ago I parked in a striped area in downtown Vancouver and received a ticket for it. Fortunately the judge understood my reasoning for allowing cars to use the limited parking and knocked the ticket down quite a bit.
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Dec 17th 2018, 12:20 PM   #4
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.... has there been discussion regarding allowing motorcycles to park in the striped areas of parking lots and public parking areas?
Not that I am aware of yet.
Dec 17th 2018, 12:30 PM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

I've mentioned it before but the rule in France where the ladies don't wear-- hang on, I'll start again. The rule in France is if you can put a motorcycle there without impeding wheeled or foot traffic it's okay. Parking on the sidewalk in the lamppost zone for example is just fine if you don't stick out into the walking area or impede access to a crosswalk.

I do this in the US too, but only in areas that don't have metered parking where there's constant patrolling and it looks too much like you're trying to avoid paying. Me, I'm just trying to avoid getting knocked over. The worst thing that's happened is some other guy on a motorcycle saw it and thought "good idea" and stuck his bike there too in such a way as to keep me from getting out. I once walked a guys bike out in a tight circle (because of the steering head lock of course) and left it in a pretty awkward spot when he did that to me. I'm sure he knew why it happened when he came out so I don't feel bad at all. The golden rule of motorcycling is don't be an asshole to other motorcyclists.
Dec 18th 2018, 08:32 AM   #6
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Tod, has there been discussion regarding allowing motorcycles to park in the striped areas of parking lots and public parking areas? Several years ago I parked in a striped area in downtown Vancouver and received a ticket for it. Fortunately the judge understood my reasoning for allowing cars to use the limited parking and knocked the ticket down quite a bit.
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Not that I am aware of yet.
The logistics of this would be quite cumbersome, as the striped areas are also used to demark boarding access for ADA parking, crosswalk buffers, etc.

The underlying issue for the proposed legislation is mainly for small burgs like upper poopwhistle and left armpit that, for some reason known only to them, like to target groups of motorcycles. Yes, it's a stupid behavior, but not everyone is as smart as us.

The really interesting thing was when the lobbyist for cities and counties, most likely driven by planet Seattle, weighed into the discussion in opposition based on paid parking enforcement.
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Dec 18th 2018, 12:36 PM   #7
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The underlying issue for the proposed legislation is mainly for small burgs like upper poopwhistle and left armpit that, for some reason known only to them, like to target groups of motorcycles. Yes, it's a stupid behavior, but not everyone is as smart as us.
Watch out for the Bellingham parking enforcement. Unfortunately they are known to ticket motorcycles that share parking spaces.
Dec 20th 2018, 05:46 AM   #8
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  Stanwood

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Watch out for the Bellingham parking enforcement. Unfortunately they are known to ticket motorcycles that share parking spaces.
Proof of that would be handy when we chat up members of the Legislature, especially the ones representing that area.
Dec 20th 2018, 07:41 AM   #9
 
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  Seattle

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Multiple bikes in a slot that fits makes sense, but not in striped areas. Those are for disabled drivers (like several members of my family), or for safety.
Dec 24th 2018, 12:24 PM   #10
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I've often parked 2 bikes to a spot, heck, I've even parked 4 bikes to a spot. I would think cars would have the opposite reaction of this legislation and be annoyed at multiple motorcycles each taking one spot...
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Dec 25th 2018, 09:16 AM   #11
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I've often parked 2 bikes to a spot, heck, I've even parked 4 bikes to a spot. I would think cars would have the opposite reaction of this legislation and be annoyed at multiple motorcycles each taking one spot...
It's not the individual car drivers that are pushing back, it's the Washington Association of Cities and Counties. A good move would be to contact your city and county governments and put the case to them and ask that they support the legislation.
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Jan 25th 2019, 07:12 AM   #13
 
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Striped areas aren't always for ADA or crosswalk buffers. In fact, I'd venture to guess that most aren't used for that. Most are used to fill in the ends of parking rows where there's not enough room for a full spot, and those should logically be available for smaller vehicles to use, and yes I'd include things like SmartCar in that too.

Of course it depends where you're at, higher value newer parking lots use islands and plants instead of striped zones at the ends of the rows.
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Jan 25th 2019, 09:42 AM   #14
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Striped areas aren't always for ADA or crosswalk buffers. In fact, I'd venture to guess that most aren't used for that. Most are used to fill in the ends of parking rows where there's not enough room for a full spot, and those should logically be available for smaller vehicles to use, and yes I'd include things like SmartCar in that too.

Of course it depends where you're at, higher value newer parking lots use islands and plants instead of striped zones at the ends of the rows.
The problem with allowing parking in striped areas is that the stripes have no fixed meaning more specific than "don't park here"; without reference to whether it's because "we need this clearance for some important purpose" or "it's an irregular space where a car won't fit". It's sometimes sensible to put a bike in the latter but I think it's hard to legislate "use good judgement."

(Personally I don't park in such spaces unless they're in a corner or blocked by bollards or something; somewhere cars aren't going to bonk unless they make a real effort. In the row-end ones you're asking to be clipped by creaky specimens who can't pilot their land yachts safely anywhere other than a dry lake bed.)
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Feb 6th 2019, 05:10 PM   #15
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HB1058 was passed out of the House Rules Committee.

It now heads to the full House of Representatives.

That makes now the right time to let both of your House members know what you think.

Follow the bill link and click on the comment button.

https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?B...alse&Year=2019
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