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Nov 20th 2017, 04:57 PM   #91
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
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Originally Posted by liberpolly
I admit I was feeling cruiserish. Got Ducati Diavel, which does both a cruiser thing and a sportbike thing, both way above my limitations. And the sound... oh my.

No, I totally get the Harley thing. To reiterate, what I don't get is the bullshit that too often comes with it (see above).
This from a guy who bought a bike that's so confused about what it's supposed to be that when you try to take it to a Starbucks you end up at Tully's instead.

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Nov 20th 2017, 09:56 PM   #92
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Triumph Street Twin
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Originally Posted by VeritasImageryNW
This from a guy who bought a bike that's so confused about what it's supposed to be that when you try to take it to a Starbucks you end up at Tully's instead.
No, it's the bike that stops at Fremont's Free Range Coffee on the way to Goody Two Shoes BBQ and Whiskey Bar. In other words, it is not confused, it's best of both worlds. Try it sometime, you may like it.
Nov 20th 2017, 10:12 PM   #93
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
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Originally Posted by liberpolly
No, it's the bike that stops at Fremont's Free Range Coffee on the way to Goody Two Shoes BBQ and Whiskey Bar. In other words, it is not confused, it's best of both worlds. Try it sometime, you may like it.
I have the best of two worlds, two bikes. Neither one has to compromise what they are. If I want a sport bike, I jump on the sport bike. If I want a cruiser, I jump on a real cruiser, not a half-baked Italian attempt at one.

And you know what else? Not only did both my bikes, combined, cost less than yours, but I rebuilt them both myself. The CBR was an $800 mess and the Dyna was an insurance total with an initial cost, to me, of $4500. All told, I have maybe $7000 into both bikes.

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Nov 20th 2017, 10:25 PM   #94
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  Jan 2016
  Washington County

  H-D
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Originally Posted by VeritasImageryNW
If I want a cruiser, I jump on a real cruiser, not a half-baked Italian attempt at one.
Easy there Buddy. Let's leave the pissing to the other guys. We know what we've got and why we like 'em. This thread is a fine example of "winter on the internet" Not to sound like a broken record but there is something to like about any bike.
Nov 21st 2017, 05:45 AM   #95
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  Jan 2016
  WA

  Harley Davidson LR-S
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Nov 21st 2017, 06:21 AM   #96
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
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Easy there Buddy. Let's leave the pissing to the other guys. We know what we've got and why we like 'em. This thread is a fine example of "winter on the internet" Not to sound like a broken record but there is something to like about any bike.
Just figured he could see what it's like to be on the other end of it.

Plus, this isn't just a "winter thread", this is a typical Harley thread on this forum.

And if you've ever read any of my other posts in this regard you will see that I pretty much always state that I can see value in just about any bike. I don't bash on any. This was just an example of how most Harley bashers sound.

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Nov 21st 2017, 09:42 AM   #97
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  Jan 2016
  WA

  Harley Davidson LR-S
Does this help anything?

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Nov 21st 2017, 10:15 AM   #98
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  Jan 2016
  Custer WA

  Aprilia Tuono 1100
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Nov 21st 2017, 04:18 PM   #99
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Triumph Street Twin
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Originally Posted by VeritasImageryNW
I have the best of two worlds, two bikes. Neither one has to compromise what they are. If I want a sport bike, I jump on the sport bike. If I want a cruiser, I jump on a real cruiser, not a half-baked Italian attempt at one.

And you know what else? Not only did both my bikes, combined, cost less than yours, but I rebuilt them both myself. The CBR was an $800 mess and the Dyna was an insurance total with an initial cost, to me, of $4500. All told, I have maybe $7000 into both bikes.
The thing is, my "half-baked Italian attempt" is a better cruiser than your cruiser :P

You're way ahead on money saved, though. So you do have that going on for you. Which is nice.
Nov 21st 2017, 06:20 PM   #100
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
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The thing is, my "half-baked Italian attempt" is a better cruiser than your cruiser :P

You're way ahead on money saved, though. So you do have that going on for you. Which is nice.
How it is a "better" cruiser when Harley invented the genre? The only thing that could possible compete as a "better" cruiser is an Indian, and even then they only really have two cruiser models, the Scout and the Chief, the rest are baggers and tourers. All other brands are simply wannabes, with the Diavel missing the cruiser mark by a long shot (about as long as those early Japanese "cruisers").
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Nov 21st 2017, 07:30 PM   #101
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Triumph Street Twin
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Originally Posted by VeritasImageryNW
How it is a "better" cruiser when Harley invented the genre? The only thing that could possible compete as a "better" cruiser is an Indian, and even then they only really have two cruiser models, the Scout and the Chief, the rest are baggers and tourers. All other brands are simply wannabes, with the Diavel missing the cruiser mark by a long shot (about as long as those early Japanese "cruisers").
The invention is not a guarantee of future results. Whatever you need from a cruiser - name it - Ducati does better.
Nov 21st 2017, 09:34 PM   #102
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  Feb 2016
  Gig Harbor

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Whatever you need from a cruiser - name it - Ducati does better.
Challenge Accepted!

• You're on a road trip in the USA and need dealer/parts support - are you more likely to find a nearby HD or Ducati dealer?

• Same situation as above but there is no dealer within reach - are you more likely to find an independent shop or another rider with HD or Ducati maintenance experience?

• You'd like to customize your cruiser in various ways - are you going to find more options available to do so with HD or Ducati?

• You want to join the Hells Angels - will they be more likely to accept you and your HD or you and your Ducati?

Nov 21st 2017, 09:41 PM   #103
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
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The invention is not a guarantee of future results. Whatever you need from a cruiser - name it - Ducati does better.
As I have so often pointed out to you, the majority of American riders disagree with you. Why? Because there is one thing you forget, American cruiser riders want an American cruiser. They want that big chuck of metal that carries an engine that pounds in your chest. They want something that looks similar to those bikes of older. They want something they can alter to fit their needs, their personality. They want everything you disdain about Harleys. And that is why no import cruiser will ever be a "better" cruiser. You stay stuck on numbers being the sole defining mark of "better", but the reality is that "better" to the American rider is more about "feelings", about tradition, heritage, about being connected to something more than horsepower, top speed, lean angles, lap times and stopping distances. Once you decide to let go of your numbers then maybe you'll understand. But until then, remember that you are in the minority.

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Nov 21st 2017, 09:58 PM   #104
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
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The invention is not a guarantee of future results. Whatever you need from a cruiser - name it - Ducati does better.
I want a cruiser that looks like, feels like, sounds like, and rides like a Harley. Can the Duc do that "better" than my Dyna can? Nope, fail.

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Nov 21st 2017, 10:33 PM   #105
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2006 FZ1, 1999 R1
I thought we weren’t going to criticize the choices we all make; that bikes is bikes?
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