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Sep 23rd 2020, 03:21 PM   #16
 liberpolly's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Aprilia Scarabeo
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I'm a little more than halfway through the first one, and I had to stop and look up who Rivian's financial backers are. (Rivian is the company that made the prototype electric support vehicles, and -- get this -- built a series of charging stations all along the route.) Because when you see how much money they have on hand to just dump into this thing it makes your head swim.

Anyway, just a quick google search indicates like they've raised billions. Like 2.5 of them, in actual spendable liquid cash, this year alone. Not bad for a company that's not selling anything yet.
...but has 100,000 preorders from Amazon
https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/19/2...ff-bezos-order
Sep 23rd 2020, 03:22 PM   #17
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Aprilia Scarabeo
I watched the first 3 episodes, very entertaining. Makes me want to buy a LiveWire with Panamerica suspension, if such thing will ever emerge from the Harley factory doors.
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Sep 25th 2020, 08:52 PM   #18
 
  Jan 2016
  Gig Harbor

  BMW F650GS / BMW R12R
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I enjoy watching McGregor and Boorman clowning around as two guys who really enjoy each otherís company, and the cinematography through the first four episodes is great. The recurring theme that is drilled into viewers, however, is the intense anxiety they have with the lack of range of the electric vehicles (both motorcycles and trucks). The majority of their conversations revolve around the worry that they wonít be able to make it to their next waypoint. In some cases they donít, and resorted to bringing in truck-mounted diesel generators to charge the bikes. Granted, in this early portion of the series they are traversing an area that is mostly off the grid. (One of their stops is an eco-camp in Torres del Paine National Park that runs off a small hydropower plant and a bunch of 12v batteries wired in series). The riding doesnít appear to be very fun because they dawdle along at 30 or 40 mph to try to stretch their range.

Frankly, I donít think these first episodes make either Harley or Rivian look like viable transportation options. If those companies got into this for marketing exposure, itís not panning out well so far. They should have chosen a different scenario if they want to attract buyers.

Iíll keep watching for the beautiful scenery and the witty repartee between Ewan and Charley. Iím growing weary of the range anxiety , however.
Sep 25th 2020, 09:39 PM   #19
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  Apr 2016
  Molalla

  2009 Aprilia RSVR, 2010 Honda VFR 1200f DCT
I like playing the Devils advocate. Who really cares about 2 rich, famous elitists being chaperoned by their entourage to ensure their safety and well being? I wonder what the insurance premiums were for the whole shi-bang. I'll bet they didn't pay for anything. I'll bet they sold out to the highest bidding multi-national conglomerate, not that there's anything wrong with that. Nothing better to do?

What, they don't think that internal combustion engines are good enough anymore? Like everyone's lining up to buy themselves a $20K+ bike that aint nearly as fun to ride as gas burners? Besides, if they think they're gonna change the bike buying public's mind, aint gonna happen. Not in this country. We like gas. Always have, always will. Anyone who thinks differently is just a libtard. 'Merica.
Sep 26th 2020, 06:56 AM   #20
 
  Mar 2016
  Bellingham

  Frieda
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I like playing the Devils advocate. Who really cares about 2 rich, famous elitists being chaperoned by their entourage to ensure their safety and well being? I wonder what the insurance premiums were for the whole shi-bang. I'll bet they didn't pay for anything. I'll bet they sold out to the highest bidding multi-national conglomerate, not that there's anything wrong with that. Nothing better to do?
Open market capitalism at it's best
Sep 26th 2020, 07:07 AM   #21
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2016 R1, 1999 R1
Why would anyone buy one of those Newfangled horseless carriages? They smoke and stink and need a rare fuel with no place to purchase it. Especially when we have all these horses and barns and liveries, a total infrastructure in place. Horses don’t need roads or mechanical maintenance. There is no future in it. Let’s just stick to what we know. Infernal combustion will never be viable!
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Sep 26th 2020, 09:15 AM   #22
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  Jan 2016
  NW Oregon

They seem to be great bikes apart from the range and finicky charging demands. But yeah, crazy expensive. Still waiting for economies of scale to kick in; an electric vehicle ought to be much cheaper than an ICE considering it has fewer than half the subsystems and none of the big sloppy Rube Goldberg ones.

What's funny is they don't mention at first that Claudio's on what looks like a bone-stock Harley Roadster. It would have made sense if they'd given it some range, that way if their batteries go flat in Nowheresville they've got someone who can make a run for a flatbed; but no: still got the stock 3.3. gal tank on that thing, meaning that once they got into warmer territory the electrics could match its range and even apparently exceed it in one case.

I'm pretty sure they've got a conventional Mercedes Sprinter-type support vehicle along as well, they just don't show it in the beauty shots.

Edited by WarpShatner7 on Sep 26th 2020 at 09:44 AM Reason: ICE doesn't have a U in it
Oct 30th 2020, 06:25 PM   #23
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2016 R1, 1999 R1
This weekís episode had one of the most joyful motorcycle scenes in cinema, and it involved Harley love. An 85 year Panamanian devotee led Charley in a potato-potato-potato dance around his cherry bike.
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