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Jan 7th 2019, 02:34 PM   #1
 liberpolly's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Aprilia Scarabeo
Electric Harley available this August

https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

Starting at $29,799
0 TO 60 IN UNDER 3.5 SECONDS

No other specs so far...
Jan 7th 2019, 03:07 PM   #2
 Alpine 318is's Avatar
 
  Jun 2016
  Kirkland, WA

  2011 Triumph Daytona 675
Super cool until $30k!
Jan 7th 2019, 03:13 PM   #3
 unicykle's Avatar
 
  Sep 2017
  milwaukie oregon

  gsxr600 gsxr750 gsxr1000 i like gsxrs
Im not a fan but at least hd is trying something new. I do like the more modern forks , swing arm,frame, brakes and the pegs look to be in a better spot, starting at 30k puts it way out of my range but it is hopefully an untapped market for them.
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Jan 7th 2019, 04:57 PM   #4
 Sentinel's Avatar
 
  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
Tesla is now the #1 luxury brand. Not Mercedes or BMW or the Japanese up-brands.

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/12/09...chnica-charts/

I drive an electric car. I love it, and I prefer electric cars to engine cars. I'd drive a Tesla if you gave it to me. But there's one fatal flaw in the battery vehicle: battery death WILL happen.

My 2012 Leaf is worth approx $0.00 on Craigslist. It might be worth something in parts though. The parts are sweet. That motor is really nice. But the battery will be trash soon, and a new one is WAY too expensive.

Your $30,000.00 eHarley will have the same problem.
Jan 7th 2019, 05:06 PM   #5
 MMcN49's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Small Island Surrounded by Puget Sound

  07 Buell XB12STT, (Two) 12 Suzuki DR650 SE 72BMWR75/5 KIA @ 243K
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentinel
Tesla is now the #1 luxury brand. Not Mercedes or BMW or the Japanese up-brands.

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/12/09...chnica-charts/

I drive an electric car. I love it, and I prefer electric cars to engine cars. I'd drive a Tesla if you gave it to me. But there's one fatal flaw in the battery vehicle: battery death WILL happen.

My 2012 Leaf is worth approx $0.00 on Craigslist. It might be worth something in parts though. The parts are sweet. That motor is really nice. But the battery will be trash soon, and a new one is WAY too expensive.

Your $30,000.00 eHarley will have the same problem.
You can upgrade for $6800. https://cleantechnica.com/2016/01/19...ing-to-48-kwh/

Or, Leaf offers a $2800 rebuild. https://www.greencarreports.com/news...-battery-packs
Jan 7th 2019, 05:12 PM   #6
 WarpShatner7's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Here

H-D originally touted the e-hog for a 2016 release.

Here's Scarlett Johansson's stunt double riding the concept version in Avengers: Age of Ultron:

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...in-avengers-2/
Jan 7th 2019, 05:47 PM   #7
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  Jan 2016
  Garden Home

  2012 Versys...'83 BMW R80 RT...Suzuki GS 450t
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentinel
Tesla is now the #1 luxury brand. Not Mercedes or BMW or the Japanese up-brands.

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/12/09...chnica-charts/

I drive an electric car. I love it, and I prefer electric cars to engine cars. I'd drive a Tesla if you gave it to me. But there's one fatal flaw in the battery vehicle: battery death WILL happen.

My 2012 Leaf is worth approx $0.00 on Craigslist. It might be worth something in parts though. The parts are sweet. That motor is really nice. But the battery will be trash soon, and a new one is WAY too expensive.

Your $30,000.00 eHarley will have the same problem.
if you go to the stealership for the new battery it's way too expensive...if you do it yourself it's not as bad by half...




Edited by chadams66 on Jan 7th 2019 at 05:49 PM
Jan 7th 2019, 06:01 PM   #8
 unicykle's Avatar
 
  Sep 2017
  milwaukie oregon

  gsxr600 gsxr750 gsxr1000 i like gsxrs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentinel
Tesla is now the #1 luxury brand. Not Mercedes or BMW or the Japanese up-brands.

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/12/09...chnica-charts/

I drive an electric car. I love it, and I prefer electric cars to engine cars. I'd drive a Tesla if you gave it to me. But there's one fatal flaw in the battery vehicle: battery death WILL happen.

My 2012 Leaf is worth approx $0.00 on Craigslist. It might be worth something in parts though. The parts are sweet. That motor is really nice. But the battery will be trash soon, and a new one is WAY too expensive.

Your $30,000.00 eHarley will have the same problem.

That is precisly why i dont like electric power vehicles, when a motor goes on my bikes 1k$ later i got a low mile motor good for anothe 20k+ miles, as the battery charge dies so does the performance and you dont just stop and put more gas in it.
Jan 7th 2019, 06:07 PM   #9
 liberpolly's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Aprilia Scarabeo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentinel
Tesla is now the #1 luxury brand. Not Mercedes or BMW or the Japanese up-brands.

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/12/09...chnica-charts/

I drive an electric car. I love it, and I prefer electric cars to engine cars. I'd drive a Tesla if you gave it to me. But there's one fatal flaw in the battery vehicle: battery death WILL happen.

My 2012 Leaf is worth approx $0.00 on Craigslist. It might be worth something in parts though. The parts are sweet. That motor is really nice. But the battery will be trash soon, and a new one is WAY too expensive.

Your $30,000.00 eHarley will have the same problem.
Check the used prices on Tesla. They hold value better than almost everything. Not sure why.

Harley is more akin to Tesla, if they manage to pull the PR right.
Jan 7th 2019, 08:08 PM   #10
 MikeMikeMike's Avatar
 
  Feb 2016
  Seattle

I hope, and expect Harley has paid attention to the Nissan Leaf battery fiasco. Early leafs didn’t monitor battery cell temperature and suffered from very poor battery lifespans. Like 40% of the original life at 100k miles, kind of the dream result for people who hate green cars. But Tesla had the figured out the temperature problem early on and not only Tesla, but most electric cars are now seeing 90% battery life at 100k miles. I think the technology is great for commuting, but not good for road trips. Based on the screenshot looks like the Harley will have 120~mile battery life. That is unworkable for what I do with my bike, but might work for a lot of other people.
Jan 8th 2019, 05:44 AM   #11
 Tripledij's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Custer WA

  Aprilia Tuono 1100
Good guess. According to Harley, 110 miles of urban riding.

https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/07/...rders-pricing/
Jan 8th 2019, 07:56 AM   #12
 Naza's Avatar
 
  Feb 2016
  Rent'n

  2002 Honda RC51, 2005 Honda RC51
This bike is more my speed.

https://www.energicamotor.com/energi...ic-motorcycle/
https://www.energicamotorusa.com/ele...-energica-ego/

There are some ok vids on YouTube doing some vlogger reviews and such.
Jan 8th 2019, 08:47 AM   #13
 alienbogey's Avatar
 
  Feb 2016
  Gig Harbor

I like the look of the Livewire and am really looking forward to getting a demo ride once they show up. But, $30K for 110 miles of urban range? That range is going to be significantly less at freeway speeds, and it's going to be less on cold days.

For $30K this needs to be a 250 mile range motorcycle. For 110 miles of urban range it needs to be a $15K motorcycle.

We have an electric car (Chevy Bolt) and really, really like it to the point that I doubt we'll ever by another gas car. Electric is the inevitable future but, right now, I don't see the Livewire as having much of an impact.

A lot more range, HD, or a lot less $$, or both.
Jan 8th 2019, 09:49 AM   #14
 Transported's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2006 FZ1, 1999 R1
If we are to avoid planetary devastation, won’t we all have to have electric vehicles in 10 years?
Jan 8th 2019, 11:13 AM   #15
 sunofnun's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  renton aka the dirty south

  KTM SD 1290 / KTM SD 990 / TE300 / 150xcw / wr250 / CB350 / GROM / TTR50 / CRF 50 / XR100
Nice, only took em 115 yrs stop oil leaking oil.


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