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Apr 18th 2018, 08:50 AM   #61
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  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
Originally Posted by Dash Riprock
...Take the gun and bad attitude from the equation...
The gun and attiotude ARE the equation here. Absent those things there is no topic.

Cops can be assholes all day, same as anyone else. The problem is their legal status gives them cover and impunity and regular people get hurt all the time because of it.

Trying to defend any of this behavior for any reason only gets us more of the same.
Apr 18th 2018, 10:10 AM   #62
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  Apr 2018
  Oregon Coast

  Triumph Sprint 955
Trying to defend any of this behavior for any reason only gets us more of the same.
I don't think anything I have said defends the cops actions, if I have, or even have not been clear on that I will stand corrected, but I did say the riders rights were violated.

The issue was and is the behavior of the cop, the new issue is the FAILURE of his superiors to hold him accountable. The only thing that seems to be changing these issues we see daily is public pressure. At this point the system has not worked. My point about the rider was not to suggest there was an excuse for the cops behavior, but I am asking how his and all of our conduct affects opinion and support for riders, and the eventual outcomes.

Like it or not public opinion is affecting things as serious as murder cases, again I believe LE waited 8 months for a reason, it happens all the time.

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