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Aug 29th 2017, 12:23 PM   #16
 liberpolly's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Triumph Street Twin
What's really scary is how entitled the cop feels. I bet he still thinks he is not too far off the righteous path.
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Aug 29th 2017, 12:59 PM   #17
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  Apr 2016
  Renton

Saw this video on Reddit this morning. Really made me stop and reconsider riding to work today. Luckily I've never had a bad experience with a cop, so I rode anyway. Regardless of what the rider did before the video cut in, I think he did exactly the right thing during the stop. He's lucky his wallet was in a front pocket. I might have gotten shot in that situation because my wallet is either in a back pocket or my inside jacket pocket.

The cop did everything wrong. If he's concerned about running or his own safety, he came up on the wrong side. Cutoff switch is a big red switch on the right that would end worry one. Traffic on the right is moving slower plus he's facing it, and any right handed shooter would have a hell of a time drawing and aiming behind their right side, so that's worry two alleviated.
Aug 29th 2017, 05:34 PM   #18
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  Jan 2016
  Des Moines

  M1200s, VFR800 & GSXR750
This officer threatening to push the rider's bike over reminds me of that officer that kicked over the rider's bike down in Eugene. I assume in both cases it was due to the officer making sure the rider wasn't going to run (or in the Eugene case, "anymore"). Is motorcycle riders running from cops such an epidemic that some of them automatically assume that we're going to run? Personally, I've had an officer thank me for stopping, which totally caught me off guard.
Aug 29th 2017, 05:51 PM   #19
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  Jan 2016
  NW

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Originally Posted by HalcyonSon
The cop did everything wrong.
Thats an understatement.
He's a detective, I'll bet traffic infractions are not even a part of his assignment.
Instead of lighting the rider up and letting him pull over in a safe location officer road rage creates a dangerous situation in the middle of the roadway, where either one of them could have been hit by a truck.
Then he pulls out a firearm for no valid reason, and just escalated the situation more. If the rider was carrying, and shot him in the head, it might have been justified (if the blue and red lights were not visible to the helmet cam). From the right angle it looks like a guy with a gun stealing someones wallet.

what a disgrace.. oh, but the Sheriff apologized.. so its all better..
Aug 29th 2017, 06:47 PM   #20
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  Jan 2016
  The spunk-filled wanksock formerly known as Portland

  R1200ST, CB350
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Then he pulls out a firearm for no valid reason
It's the firearm that's the main problem. Apart from that it's just a really bad traffic stop that doesn't follow procedure. Well, that and the threat to knock him down, but I've seen cops cross the line verbally before. Yeah all that's bad and if I were to guess it'd probably get a reprimand in the cop's file and that's about it.

But the firearm blows it up. There's nothing about the way he appeared alongside the rider flourishing that piece that in any way relates to policing. Nobody ever teaches anyone to hold it that way, he was doing it to frighten and intimidate while keeping it out of sight of anyone else.

It's the apocalyptic weirdness of the whole thing that makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck. I think I'd rather have a mugger point a gun at me: at least I'd understand what was going on, what I'm supposed to do in order to not die. But here it was clear that there were no rules right from the beginning. I'd have been in genuine fear for my life.
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Aug 29th 2017, 06:55 PM   #21
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  Jan 2016
  Beijing

  Honda CBF190R
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It's the apocalyptic weirdness of the whole thing that makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck. I think I'd rather have a mugger point a gun at me: at least I'd understand what was going on, what I'm supposed to do in order to not die. But here it was clear that there were no rules right from the beginning. I'd have been in genuine fear for my life.
Definitely. I would have been very scared in that same situation.
Aug 29th 2017, 07:18 PM   #22
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  Jan 2016
  NW

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Originally Posted by WarpShatner7
It's the firearm that's the main problem. Apart from that it's just a really bad traffic stop that doesn't follow procedure. Well, that and the threat to knock him down, but I've seen cops cross the line verbally before. Yeah all that's bad and if I were to guess it'd probably get a reprimand in the cop's file and that's about it. The firearm blows it up. There's nothing about the way he appeared alongside the rider flourishing that piece that in any way relates to policing. Nobody ever teaches anyone to hold it that way, he was doing it to frighten and intimidate while keeping it out of sight of anyone else.

It's the apocalyptic weirdness of the whole thing that makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck. I think I'd rather have a mugger point a gun at me: at least I'd understand what was going on, what I'm supposed to do in order to not die. But here it was clear that there were no rules right from the beginning. I'd have been in genuine fear for my life.
I'm glad that you're ok with it anyways... (/sarcasm)
Aug 29th 2017, 09:44 PM   #23
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  Jan 2016
  The spunk-filled wanksock formerly known as Portland

  R1200ST, CB350
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I'm glad that you're ok with it anyways... (/sarcasm)
Yeah, not quite what I meant. I agree with everything you say, I was just calling out the firearm behavior as taking it to a whole nother level than all the rest of it. Everything else made it a fucked up road rage incident by a cop abusing his position but using that gun at all, let alone the way he did, took it into genuine insanity territory.
Aug 29th 2017, 10:01 PM   #24
 
  Jun 2016
  Portland area

Good reason to wear a camera. That bully detective is toast.

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Aug 30th 2017, 10:51 PM   #25
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

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Aug 31st 2017, 07:06 AM   #26
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  Jan 2016
  NW

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Good reason to wear a camera. That bully detective is toast.

I doubt it, he'll be back on duty in a week, just like the Texas cop who pepper sprayed the group of motorcycles.

Remember this woman? $100,000 in back pay and retirement. How awful. The "war on cops" is just getting out of hand.

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Aug 31st 2017, 08:26 AM   #27
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  Jan 2016
  Salem, Oregon

  Only if I get my health back on track in 2018...
The real question is; What the hell has happened to our society when the average citizen is more worried about being shot by a cop than a criminal?
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Aug 31st 2017, 05:52 PM   #28
 
  Jan 2016
  92 miles from Windy Ridge, Mt. St. Helens

  2017 FZ-07; Z1000 Kawi; '84+'85 RZ350; '76 RD400; '74 & '75 RD350; '66 Suzuki X6 250..a few others
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The real question is; What the hell has happened to our society when the average citizen is more worried about being shot by a cop than a criminal?
Not just shot, either. They're even more likely to have their cars & money STOLEN by cops using "civil forfeiture" which doesn't require any arrest or charges to be filed. Since about 2014, the yearly amount of civil forfeiture conducted on mostly innocent civilians EXCEEDED all criminal burglarly amounts collectively.

What's more, they have to negotiate a complicated gaunlet of regulations and court action to have any chance of getting their money/cars back. The law was designed for drug kingpins living in mansions, but has been used almost exclusively to fund police coffers at the expense of innocent citizens. Some people call it "policing for profit." I call (most of) it just plain stealing.
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Aug 31st 2017, 06:33 PM   #29
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  Mar 2016
  West Linn, OR

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Look. Keep it under 100 mph. That's not to much to ask.
Aug 31st 2017, 08:28 PM   #30
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  Feb 2016
  Seattle

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Look. Keep it under 100 mph. That's not to much to ask.
Have you ridden an R1?
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