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Mar 24th 2016, 11:53 AM   #1
 
  Feb 2016
  SW Washington State

  2014 Yamaha Bolt R-Spec
Chinese Dual Sport Bikes

Anyone here have any personal experience with Chinese dual sport motorcycles?
I ride a 2014 Yamaha Bolt but would also like to have a bike that I can ride from my home to local fire roads and trails that are close by. I can't afford to buy a new Japanese bike and used dual sport bikes around here are more expensive than brand new Chinese one's!
Mar 24th 2016, 11:59 AM   #2
 Flyboymedic's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Hazel Dell, Wa

  Honda VFR800, Husqvarna TE 610, Ducati Hypermotard 1100S
Keep in mind mark up dealer fees. I see that tax, title, license fees will be the same for you regardless, unless you claim, "I bought the bike for $500 dollars". Tax might be a bit less on the used bike.
I suspect Washington has a whole lot of '$500' bikes running around.
Mar 24th 2016, 12:20 PM   #3
 Red Label Moto's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  all of them
Quote:
Originally Posted by riverrat373
...used dual sport bikes around here are more expensive than brand new Chinese one's!...
You get what you pay for. It really is no more complex than that.
Mar 24th 2016, 12:20 PM   #4
 
  Jan 2016
  Beaverton

  '13 636, '14 N1k, DR650
You'd probably be surprised how many of the parts on your Bolt were made in China.

This goes for pretty much any bike (or car for that matter) from a Japanese manufacturer made in the past 10 years as well.

Buy one and do a review for us. I'm somewhat interested in how these fare after ~10k miles or so (incl. maint, and such.)
Mar 24th 2016, 12:22 PM   #5
 
  Mar 2016
  Beaverton

  2002 Honda 919
I found this and it was good info. Sounds like the Lifan was pretty good. Not sure which brand you're looking at. Best of luck!

Dual-Sport 200cc Lifan-Powered Bike from Day-One..... - Chinese - ThumperTalk
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Mar 24th 2016, 12:26 PM   #6
 
  Feb 2016
  SW Washington State

  2014 Yamaha Bolt R-Spec
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Originally Posted by Flyboymedic
Keep in mind mark up dealer fees. I see that tax, title, license fees will be the same for you regardless, unless you claim, "I bought the bike for $500 dollars". Tax might be a bit less on the used bike.
I suspect Washington has a whole lot of '$500' bikes running around.
There are no $500 bikes on Craigslist except a few basket cases! I am looking for a 250cc bike and I have not seen one under $3000 that I would buy! It's crazy what people are pricing 15-20 year bikes for!
By the way, I'm 71 years old and am not going to be riding hard!
Mar 24th 2016, 01:07 PM   #7
 Tripledij's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Custer WA

  Aprilia Tuono 1100
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Label Moto
You get what you pay for. It really is no more complex than that.
I agree. I would take used Japanese over new Chinese any day.
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Mar 24th 2016, 01:51 PM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  NW

Quote:
Originally Posted by riverrat373
I am looking for a 250cc bike and I have not seen one under $3000 that I would buy!
Whats wrong with this?
Yamaha 225 Dual Sport
92 XT225 5K miles $1800 (I'd offer him $1600)

Chines bikes aren't horrible, but getting parts can be hard or impossible. You can still get parts for a 30 year old Honda.
Japanese bikes hold their value because they are reliable. That XT225 will still be worth $1500 in 5 years, a Chinese bike will be worth $300 at best.
Mar 24th 2016, 02:20 PM   #9
 Arnbo's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Ferndale Washington

  ZX10-R GSXR 600 Track Bike
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Label Moto
You get what you pay for. It really is no more complex than that.
+1
Mar 24th 2016, 02:30 PM   #10
 jared p's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  here

  there
any not chinese used dual sport over chinese new dual sport any day. having done some work on chinese bikes (lifan) lately (not mine) i would say, never, ever, EVER buy one.
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Mar 24th 2016, 02:59 PM   #11
 Flyboymedic's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Hazel Dell, Wa

  Honda VFR800, Husqvarna TE 610, Ducati Hypermotard 1100S
Quote:
Originally Posted by riverrat373
There are no $500 bikes on Craigslist except a few basket cases!
I think you completely missed the meaning in my post.
Lots of people claim they bought the used bike for $500 to avoid paying higher taxes in WA.
Mar 24th 2016, 07:32 PM   #12
 
  Feb 2016
  SW Washington State

  2014 Yamaha Bolt R-Spec
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scribbles
Whats wrong with this?
Yamaha 225 Dual Sport
92 XT225 5K miles $1800 (I'd offer him $1600)

Chines bikes aren't horrible, but getting parts can be hard or impossible. You can still get parts for a 30 year old Honda.
Japanese bikes hold their value because they are reliable. That XT225 will still be worth $1500 in 5 years, a Chinese bike will be worth $300 at best.
I'm not about to drive as far as the Tri-Cities area to buy a bike. Too far. I also don't buy things on the basis of what they will be worth in 5 years.
Mar 24th 2016, 08:10 PM   #13
 galenernest's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Beijing

  Honda CBF190R
Ok, I'll bite, since I have owned a Chinese dual sport... It was a Jialing 150 made for the domestic market, so not something you'll even find in the states, but is a fair example.

Most of the money goes into the motor, so things like levers and pegs are of minimal fit and finish. I had a few reliability issues wth the engine that irritates me to the point of just buying a Japanese bike ultimately... Nothing major went wrong with the bike and it always got me home, but I simply got tired of it not starting, or not revving up all the way, etc... Too many little issues...

So, in short, you get what you pay for, and I have to agree that you'll get way better value out of a used Japanese bike than a new Chinese bike.


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Apr 14th 2016, 09:50 AM   #14
Rix
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  Apr 2016
  tacoma

  2014 vstrom 650, 2005 fz1, 82 cm400, 82 450 nighthawk, 83 virago 500, 71 cb175, 70 cl100, 1984 magna
I bought a maxfine for 200 bucks, had to put the wiring back together, clean the carb, etc. Street legal, shitty dirt bike. It starts every time. Runs fine. It's a 150, so it's slow. Tops out at 60, won't rev any higher. Rear shock is crap. Forks are so so at best.
And I don't care if it gets dropped. Chinese replacement parts are dirt ass cheap. So far I haven't needed anything.
They won't likely hold up to the abuse a Japanese equivalent will. Nor would I expect it to.
BUT.... I can't find a speedo or tach cable to save my life.
I'd buy an rx3 cyclone in a heartbeat but it's not in the price range of the thread.
Apr 14th 2016, 10:11 AM   #15
 SilvieFox's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  welches, Oregon

  08Kawasaki Versys(Sylvester),72Suzuki RV90(vanvan),81Honda TwinStar(Bobber),Yamaha225,Honda Shadow
spicy110 seemed to be fine with his china 125 for years. not all china bikes are crap, but some are
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