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Nov 29th 2017, 08:53 PM   #1
 liberpolly's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Triumph Street Twin
Another hot new Ducati!

And no, I am not talking about V4

I am talking about Scrambler 1100

https://www.revzilla.com/common-trea...100-first-look

Nov 30th 2017, 06:36 AM   #2
 Tripledij's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Custer WA

  Aprilia Tuono 1100
I like it. But, much like Aprilia's new Dorsoduro 900 ( which I really like ) it is lacking in the hp department. IMO they should both be a solid 100+ at the wheel.
Nov 30th 2017, 06:43 AM   #3
 Sentinel's Avatar
 
  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
what is with all the rear fender hate going around motorcycling these last few years?

i know it starts with those hang-down thingies they install (to meet stupid reflector position requirements).

but why is it people don't give a shit about water spray flinging up over the back and making everything sick and gross?

unrelated mopo -

Nov 30th 2017, 08:17 AM   #4
 Tripledij's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Custer WA

  Aprilia Tuono 1100
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentinel
but why is it people don't give a shit about water spray flinging up over the back and making everything sick and gross?
This reminds me of my last trip out to Neah Bay. Great weather until just past Port Angelus.

Lots of rain, crappy vision, wet bumpy road with lots of illegal gravel, and oh yeah, wet crack. By the time we got to Neah Bay the only parts still dry were my feet and my head. That's what I get for not turning around.

As far as the fender goes, it was easier to get another bike with a back fender for that kind of ride, and save the tuono for the nice weather rides.
Nov 30th 2017, 08:49 AM   #5
 PeteN95's Avatar
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  Jan 2016
  Muklilteo, WA

  Suzuki DL1000, Honda XR650R, KTM 250 XC-W
I like the taller seat height, but only 13 more HP for 44 more lbs seems wrong?
Nov 30th 2017, 10:33 AM   #6
 Flyboymedic's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Hazel Dell, Wa

  Honda VFR800, Husqvarna TE 610, Ducati Hypermotard 1100S
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripledij
I like it. But, much like Aprilia's new Dorsoduro 900 ( which I really like ) it is lacking in the hp department. IMO they should both be a solid 100+ at the wheel.
Keep in mind that the new Euro emissions regs are the reason for that and there is a new hp/kW rating system as a result. I think they measure it at the wheel now instead of the crankshaft like they should that's why you're seeing all the low numbers from Euro bikes lately. My Hypermotard 1100s is now rated at 84hp from the old ~100 hp.
Nov 30th 2017, 11:37 AM   #7
 liberpolly's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Triumph Street Twin
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentinel
what is with all the rear fender hate going around motorcycling these last few years?

i know it starts with those hang-down thingies they install (to meet stupid reflector position requirements).

but why is it people don't give a shit about water spray flinging up over the back and making everything sick and gross?
There's a solution for that:



which has been popping up in strangest places lately

Nov 30th 2017, 11:51 AM   #8
 Tripledij's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Custer WA

  Aprilia Tuono 1100
There is a thread over at AF1 Racing where Micah shows the dyno results from the 750, 900 and 1200 Dorsoduros. Even though he says their dyno reads about 15% lower than a Dynojet dyno, the 900 is still way short of 100hp.

Pic of dyno graph


Thread

900cc VS 750cc on dyno
Nov 30th 2017, 11:53 AM   #9
 paradox206's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Des Moines

  M1200s, VFR800 & GSXR750
I wonder if they'll drop the price on the non-Icon models to give the 1100 a little more room price wise. The base Hyper 1100 was $14.5 when it came out, but even though that was 9 years ago I couldn't see myself spending more than that on one of these.

Personally, a Ducati without a SSS doesn't do much for me in the looks department.
Nov 30th 2017, 05:37 PM   #10
 MikeMikeMike's Avatar
 
  Feb 2016
  Seattle

First scrambler I would consider. Has proper brakes and suspension finally. Also Ducati I see you tried to sneak in a hydraulic clutch, no more fucking cheap terrible feeling cables. Love it. About the HP I'll briefly sound like a Harley guy and say the point of a 2-valve 1100 is torque not HP. That thing will have good power and throttle response in the power band you regularly ride in. Plus ditch the stock exhaust and you save 20lbs and pick up 10hp. Now the question is what's inside the clutch, we got some oil sloshing around in their making it quiet or is it a dry clutch like the old 1100?
Nov 30th 2017, 06:56 PM   #11
 liberpolly's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Triumph Street Twin
No dry clutches! Ew.
Nov 30th 2017, 07:28 PM   #12
 MikeMikeMike's Avatar
 
  Feb 2016
  Seattle

Dry clutches are much better for a race bike, and much worse for a street bike. Hence my current arrangement.
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Dec 1st 2017, 09:53 AM   #13
 MotoDan's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Olympia

  2014 KTM 690 / BMW R1150 GS
Its NOT a real Ducati unless the Dry-Clutch isnt clinging and clanging, spinning around like its about to explode, music to the riders ears.
Dec 1st 2017, 12:06 PM   #14
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  Feb 2016
  Seattle



Some Honda's have dry clutches also...
Dec 1st 2017, 11:01 PM   #15
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  Jan 2016
  Hazel Dell, Wa

  Honda VFR800, Husqvarna TE 610, Ducati Hypermotard 1100S
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