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Aug 26th 2019, 04:39 PM   #1
 
  Aug 2019
  Seattle

  2014 BMW F800GT
"Adventure" Bike Recommendation

Okay, I know everyone has their own preferences...or you wouldn't have bought what you have. I rode north on FR25 on the east side of Mt. St. Helens on Sunday on my way back from the Sound Rider Rally in the Gorge. I did it okay on my BMW F800GT...but it is a sport-touring bike and really wasn't happy. I even unexpectedly took some air at least once. And I wasn't trying to ride fast!

I've never wished for any other bike in all my travels. But I couldn't help but wonder how an "adventure" bike would do on that road with the additional suspension travel over my GT.

For those who have never been on FR25, think of the worst paved road you can imagine. There's actually few potholes...but a lot of places where the road has caved in from the soil beneath it washing out. In some places, I'm guessing it is like 5 inches of drop off. In the poor lighting conditions, you can't see all the drop offs.

I'm a BMW owner, so my initial thought was a F800GS or F700GS. (I should add that I'm height challenged at 5'6" and with a 28 inch inseam.) But I was also wondering how a WeeStrom or its big-brother would do. Or a Tiger. Or any other bike in that category.

I still have plans to travel long distance touring, so the bike would have to fill that role as well.

What do you think?

Chris
Aug 26th 2019, 05:34 PM   #2
 coastrider's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Oregon Coast

  2017 BMW R1200RT
I had the "Wee Strom" - the Suzuki 650 Adventure and really enjoyed it. Had the factory side cases and top box, but there are lots of other options out there. Gave me a good amount of storage space and the side cases had nice loops allowing me to strap on some dry bags for clothes and light stuff. An all around great bike that would do it all. Lots of fun in corners and not too bad for distances. I installed a skid plate in order to have somewhere to mount some highway pegs which I need when running long distances. A great bike which I would recommend.

I found that my body was getting too old for off road and I was doing more touring than adventuring so moved from the Suzuki Vstrom 650 ADV to a BMW R1200RT but I did enjoy that Suzuki and consider it a great bike.
Aug 26th 2019, 06:00 PM   #3
 
  Apr 2016
  WA

RC8R seems to gobble that road up. No complaints even loaded with 4 days worth of luggage. I would say the paces was.... spirited.

RC390 does it even better! So nimble you can avoid 99% of the crap.

Hint, go faster, the road smooths out.
Aug 26th 2019, 06:17 PM   #4
 jared p's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  here

  there
I've been taken with the Africa Twin since it's release. But also the new V85TT Adventure I test rode was really nice as well. I'd probably still go Honda but Yamaha just about to drop the Tenere 700 which also looks sweet.
Aug 26th 2019, 06:23 PM   #5
 
  Apr 2016
  WA

I was lusting over that Africa Twin for the longest time but that KTM 1090 Adventure is an offering that just can't be ignored.
Aug 26th 2019, 07:04 PM   #6
 
  Aug 2017
  Kirkland

Has anybody taken a multistrada on anything other than paved/fire road out here? I'm considering a transition to ADV as well but would still like to get dirty. I'm leaning towards the africa twin for that reason, but would love to stay with Ducati.
Aug 27th 2019, 04:29 AM   #7
 Mudslinger's Avatar
 
  Sep 2016
  Seabeck

  Africa Twin
I have had my Africa twin for 3 years and not a single hiccup or problem. The KtM 1090 or the big BMW are both excellent bikes if you can afford them.
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Aug 27th 2019, 04:53 AM   #8
 Bald Guy's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Kennewick

  Versys 1000 SE LT+, Ural Patrol and a shit load of BN125
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryanthegreat1
I was lusting over that Africa Twin for the longest time but that KTM 1090 Adventure is an offering that just can't be ignored.
I had a 1290 Super Adventure R for a year and a half. Loved the motorcycle, hated KTM.

The bike had electrical issues from day one, and KTM ignored the dealer, making every step in the diagnostic process as painful as possible on the dealer and myself.

On the plus side, the 1090 has very little fancy electronics and so a huge headache could be eliminated from your ownership experience.
Aug 27th 2019, 07:48 AM   #9
 
  Aug 2019
  Seattle

  2014 BMW F800GT
For the 1290 Super Adventure R, I'd have to figure out how to carry a step ladder with me. Great bike, I'm sure. But with a 28 inch inseam and 35 inch seat height...

Chris
Aug 27th 2019, 09:02 AM   #10
 Bald Guy's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Kennewick

  Versys 1000 SE LT+, Ural Patrol and a shit load of BN125
I am a 30QUOTE=Daboo;57946]For the 1290 Super Adventure R, I'd have to figure out how to carry a step ladder with me. Great bike, I'm sure. But with a 28 inch inseam and 35 inch seat height...

Chris[/QUOTE]

I am a 30 inch inseam. You learn to stop strategically.

My wife would laugh at me getting on and off. I would have to hurdle the damn thing. Once you get your feet up, Holy Shit!

I do miss that engine, I don't miss the constant errors, failures to read the fob and sometimes dying in the middle of a curve and leaving me stranded......
Aug 27th 2019, 09:46 AM   #11
 Parilla125's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  SeaTac

The 'Stroms are pretty much bulletproof and have a million accessories out there for them. But, and it is a big one, is the seat height. If you are stuck on the 'adventure' part of it and need ground clearance then you will have to get used to having a tall bike. I have a 1000 'Strom Adventure that I put lowering links on and lowered the forks in the triple trees as well as a custom lower seat. I am 5' 10" but I like having my feet firmly on the ground when stopped and I don't need 'off road' clearance.
The 1000's are taller than the 650 but they are both tall. Most of it is in the seat. The 650's are an inch shorter in the seat alone, but that makes it more dished, which I did not care for.
They are both heavy. As are most of the larger (500 and up) adventure bikes. Sure, you can learn how to ride them in the dirt, but they are more work than a smaller and lighter bike.
If you ride fire roads I would suggest getting a road bike and putting hard luggage on it. I have seen SV650's that were done up that way.
Aug 27th 2019, 12:49 PM   #12
 PeteN95's Avatar
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  Jan 2016
  Muklilteo, WA

  Suzuki DL1000, Honda XR650R, KTM 250 XC-W
I have a big Strom and love it, but I am tall and actually raised the suspension. The 650 handles better, but the 1000 has better power and is not much heavier. It is also bullet proof, there is a guy on the Strom board with 400k on his original engine! You can put a 17" front wheel from an SV on the front of a Strom to help lower it, which would help handling without losing suspension travel.

If you have the money, the Duc Multistrada with 17" wheels would be great and also the Triumph Tiger 1050 which went out of production, but also has tall suspension with 17s. The BMW F700GS, F750GS, or Triumph Tiger 800 street version all have a 19" front wheel vs. 21 and sit lower than the off road versions, but still have long travel.

Edited by PeteN95 on Aug 27th 2019 at 12:52 PM
Aug 27th 2019, 01:29 PM   #13
 WarpShatner7's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Portland

  R1200ST, CB350
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteN95
I have a big Strom and love it, but I am tall and actually raised the suspension. The 650 handles better, but the 1000 has better power and is not much heavier.
I've harped on this before, but the 1000 has an overall sturdier build as well. Walk into a dealer and compare the front axle mounts: much more serious piece of work on the 1K. On my 650 I had to put on a fork brace like it's 1970 to keep from getting blown around by crosswinds on a bridge.

That said, that 650 was a peach of a bike, but best suited to be an all-rounder with maybe 10-15% fire-roading.
Aug 27th 2019, 03:46 PM   #14
 Nathan's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  space needle

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daboo
Okay, I know everyone has their own preferences...or you wouldn't have bought what you have. I rode north on FR25 on the east side of Mt. St. Helens on Sunday on my way back from the Sound Rider Rally in the Gorge. I did it okay on my BMW F800GT...but it is a sport-touring bike and really wasn't happy. I even unexpectedly took some air at least once. And I wasn't trying to ride fast!

I've never wished for any other bike in all my travels. But I couldn't help but wonder how an "adventure" bike would do on that road with the additional suspension travel over my GT.

For those who have never been on FR25, think of the worst paved road you can imagine. There's actually few potholes...but a lot of places where the road has caved in from the soil beneath it washing out. In some places, I'm guessing it is like 5 inches of drop off. In the poor lighting conditions, you can't see all the drop offs.

I'm a BMW owner, so my initial thought was a F800GS or F700GS. (I should add that I'm height challenged at 5'6" and with a 28 inch inseam.) But I was also wondering how a WeeStrom or its big-brother would do. Or a Tiger. Or any other bike in that category.

I still have plans to travel long distance touring, so the bike would have to fill that role as well.

What do you think?

Chris
Did you ride your F800GT like a dirt bike? Standing up on pegs w/ knees and arms bent can soak up extra travel. But gotta watch out bottoming out & breaking the oil pan, that can ruin your day for sure...
Aug 27th 2019, 04:30 PM   #15
 
  Aug 2019
  Seattle

  2014 BMW F800GT
Yeah, I did...but that only goes so far. When you can see the dips ahead, it is easy. And yes, the bike pivots underneath the feet nicely. But there were places, like even in the last couple miles where it appears the road is (and has been) nice...and then you get one of those surprises.

Chris
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