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Dec 3rd 2018, 07:38 PM   #1
 Bowermad's Avatar
 
  Feb 2018
  Bend, OR

636, 600, or 750

I have been on the fence for about a month on which TRACK only bike to get. Iím upgrading from my existing 2009 R1 and it replaced my 2002 GSX-R 750

I have on my radar:
Ď19 636
Ď18 636
Ď18 GSX-R 600
Ď18 GSX-R 750

All bike are equivalent in price. Under $10k OTD, and the 750 does sound like the obvious choice. I have other bikes for street riding so this bike would be strictly track ridden. Other than not being able to ride in the 600 class super bikes or 450 cripple classes is there any disadvantage to the 750 or a reason any of you would pick a different bike?
Dec 4th 2018, 08:08 AM   #2
 unicykle's Avatar
 
  Sep 2017
  milwaukie oregon

  gsxr600 gsxr750 gsxr1000 i like gsxrs
750
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Dec 4th 2018, 09:18 AM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  Washington

  16' Tuono Factory, 15' Kawi Concours
What he said ^^^^
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Dec 4th 2018, 10:14 AM   #4
 mgfchapin's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Kirkland, WA

  Daytona 675R
Any particular reason you're only going for those 4 bikes? It's gratifying to build your own track tool from a brand new bike, but keep in mind you'll probably end up spending around $20k if you do it right. You could get a really nice used R6 with all the fancy track bits already on it for under $10k.
Dec 4th 2018, 11:30 AM   #5
 Bowermad's Avatar
 
  Feb 2018
  Bend, OR

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Originally Posted by mgfchapin
Any particular reason you're only going for those 4 bikes? It's gratifying to build your own track tool from a brand new bike, but keep in mind you'll probably end up spending around $20k if you do it right. You could get a really nice used R6 with all the fancy track bits already on it for under $10k.


My thought process has gone like this. New bike, my choice is those 4 because of price and performance. I like the idea of new because Iíll leave it mostly stock and learn the bike and each little piece will provide me with incremental improvement.

I am not opposed to used race bikes but to buy a raced 600 or 1000 is a good option if the price is right. All it takes is an engine or some other major failure and Iím into a used bike the same amount as a new one that is stock.

Although I did just find a built Ď13 GSXR 1000 for $4,500

That is the right price for a used race bike. Thinking of rolling the dice in it. All the used R6ís I find are either priced crazy or thrashed. New they are more than a 750 so itís not a viable contender in my opinion.
Dec 4th 2018, 12:03 PM   #6
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  Jan 2016
  Kirkland, WA

  Daytona 675R
Yeah, then among your choices, I vote for the 750 too.
Dec 4th 2018, 03:41 PM   #7
 
  May 2016
  Milwaukie, OR

  2016 ZX-10R; 2009 F800GS
I had a 2011 599 cc ZX-6R and a 2004 GSX-R750 as track machines. The tuned ZX-6R made 120 hp at the rear wheel and was about as fast as the 750 in a straight line....and much lighter.

I guess it'd come down to the work you want to put into the bikes and their uses (will you race it?). The 636 can be made lighter than the 750 with a full exhaust, and will probably put down 120 hp + after a tune. The Showa fork, excellent brakes, and front end on those bikes is very good. I ended up putting a JRi shock on mine, as the shock was not. Traction control and a factory quickshifter on the 636 now.

The 750 would probably be at least 135 hp after a full exhaust and tune, and has a very similar suspension, stock. Probably a better shock, though. Throttle modes on the 750 -- essentially useless on track, I think, given how well those bikes are fueled.

Both pretty bulletproof. I put >25,000 miles on my ZX-6R in 5 years, at least 35-40% of those on track. No issues at all, and no oil consumption. I'm sure you could expect the same from the 750.

I'd probably go with the 750 as well -- a stronger motor is always welcome, and the aftermarket is definitely bigger than that for the ZX-6R. If you were going to ride the bike on the street at all, the 750 is a nice balance. You won't have to totally rev it out to get decent passing acceleration.
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Dec 4th 2018, 05:24 PM   #8
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
636 without hesitation, qualification, or excuse.

That thing is a freaking hotrod pure and simple.

I had one that was insane. Fucking insane. It pulled so freaking hard i was amazed. and it handled like it was alive, like a hawk or something, maybe a turducken or something.

It was a neck-breaker though. Extreme tuck. Low.Low bars.

636 and don't look back.

look at lap times for a 636 vs a zx10 or something. the liter bike is faster, but it's damn close and not hauling all that metal around is nice.
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Dec 5th 2018, 11:16 AM   #9
 
  Nov 2017
  Vancouver, WA

  2006 GSXR-1000
The bigger the HP the more it will shred tires. Keep that in mind.

I have a soft spot for 750ís myself. Good balance between power and handling. But they are limited in racing classes.

If youíre going to run stock for a while, might consider the bike with the best stock suspension and brakes.

Otherwise, I would invest my money in suspension and braking upgrades first as those will get you faster lap times quicker than power adds. So in that mindset, pick the bike with the most power stock and upgrade suspension right away.

Hope I gave you some things to ponder. Good luck!


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Dec 5th 2018, 11:28 AM   #10
 Bowermad's Avatar
 
  Feb 2018
  Bend, OR

Fun decision to have to make. Iíll try and swing a test ride in a Kawi, but I have owned 4 Suzukiís and Iím a little partial to their fit. I loved my ZX-10R so Kawi has a chance.

Iím going to head to Hawaii for a week and ponder on the beach. Iím also wondering if I can leverage the ďafter holidaysĒ pricing with anyone because bikes stop selling in January and February. Itís my favorite time to buy.
Dec 5th 2018, 01:02 PM   #11
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  Sep 2017
  milwaukie oregon

  gsxr600 gsxr750 gsxr1000 i like gsxrs
Trust me bikes haven't been selling for a couple month now. I have a 600 and a 750 i track and although the lap times are very very similar the 600 requires more work cause your making that time in the corners and you better be in the right gear or everybody leaves. For just track days The 750 is nice bieng able to pass on the straights and rung out hard even the litre bikes dont just dissapear.
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