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Jun 6th 2020, 11:23 AM   #1
 chinook rider's Avatar
 
  Feb 2016
  Coulee City

  2014 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 2008 Yamaha WR250R
Radar Detectors

Radar detectors do they work? are they legal? can you adapt them to a bike? what are the best ones?

The cops are out in full force state, county and city, they are giving tickets like there is no tomorrow. I recently got a ticket in an area I haven't seen a cop in 5 years plus. They are swarming like flies on Trump's unwiped ass. It has taken the joy of riding out of me as I am looking over my shoulder and trying to keep my speed down. So am looking for advise on detectors, thank you!
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Jun 6th 2020, 11:31 AM   #2
 
  Apr 2016
  WA

I was a skeptic for a long time. Picked up a Uniden R7 about 8 months ago now. LOVE IT!

Nice to get a heads up well in advance just to remind me to do a speed and behavior check before crossing paths with a LEO.

Feels naked to not run a radar detector now.

Have not yet adapted this to the motorcycle, don't know of a great way to interface with my helmet to make sure I hear it alarming.

Check out Vortex Radar on the Youtubes. He is a local that reviews all of the detector and laser jamming gear. BTW laser jamming and radar detection is currently legal in WA for non commercial vehicles.
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Jun 6th 2020, 12:46 PM   #3
 GPD323's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Spanaway

I have run detectors since the 70's. Yes they do work, find some you tube videos. You cannot just ride as fast as you want and think the RD is going to catch every RD trap, you have to learn how LEO's work. They also run with the car radar gun on 24/7 so you are going to get some bounced signals that your RD will PU and you can slow it down a bit. My current one is the Escort Max 360C. I have mounts on all my bikes for this unit. One thing to be aware of is all the lane departure radars on most new cars, and blind spot monitoring on cars will set off almost all RD's and you will get so frustrated with all the false signals you will want to smash the RD to pieces. The new Max 360C has filtering so its pretty quiet overall, some new Honda's get through but its a very quiet RD compared to my last IX.

The neat thing about the MAX 360C is it has directional arrows so you know in what direction the radar source is coming from.

I wear ear plugs, under 50 mph I can hear the RD with the volume maxed out, over that I use the HARD unit from Legal Speeding. Its a wireless heads up LED that fits in your helmet. I have 3 of them in my most current helmets.

Search for the HARD device: http://www.legalspeeding.com/HARD.htm#.XtwBG0VKiUk

They are not waterproof, I wrap mine in a ziploc baggie if it raining.

Uniden makes an R3, its supposed to have great range but filtering blind spot signals and other sensors from the new cars is not as good as the Escort Max 360

Edited by GPD323 on Jun 6th 2020 at 12:48 PM
Jun 6th 2020, 01:58 PM   #4
 Tripledij's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Custer WA

  Aprilia Tuono 1100 and Moto Guzzi V7 III Milano
Jun 6th 2020, 05:16 PM   #5
 larsvons's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  PDX

  '15 KLZ1000, '03 SV650S
I have a V1 and one of these. Good combo and great for long trips you want to go fast on. But, as you surely have read or heard, no detector will save you from cops that use LIDAR: by the time it's detected, too last hot plate.
Jun 7th 2020, 11:52 AM   #6
 Willow's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Silverdale, WA

  848evo, DRZ400SM, XR100
I have the Escort 9500ix. It's a bit outdated, but still works great. Yea, as GPD mentioned the radar goes off a lot around heavy traffic areas. I hardly ever use it for just around town type stuff. It still comes in handy for traveling though.

I have a mount on my Ducati and use the HARD system as GPD mentioned too. It has saved my butt many times, but as mentioned it's not full proof. I still believe radars work, but you have to be smart about it.
Jun 7th 2020, 02:44 PM   #7
 GPD323's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Spanaway

I went from the 9500IX to the new IX because Escort they said it had and IFT filter and could block some of the new lane departure and lane assist frequencies. Well not true and they have recently stopped selling the new IX. Thats why I went with the Max 360. Pretty quiet but as I said some vehicles can make it alert.

RD's have saved me so many times I would need an abacus to calculate. I don't scream down the roads but I am 5-10-15+ over most of the time just because.

Thats a ticket for sure.

A run from Shaniko to Biggs I was doing 95 mph the whole way on my C14. Its a slog to get to Biggs so having a RD is a very good thing to have.
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Jun 7th 2020, 09:10 PM   #8
 Mikeames's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Vancouver, WA

  2012 Yamaha FJR1300
I would think some detector would have bluetooth capability. That might pair up with most communication headsets so the beeping(or whatever) would come into you helmet intercom.
I havenít researched radar detectors, but Iíd be amazed if many or most donít have bluetooth capability these days.
Iíve been thinking about getting one and will be looking for the same thing.
Jun 7th 2020, 10:27 PM   #9
 MarvTravis's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Kirkland, WA

  Kawasaki ZX-14
I utilize an Escort Passport 8500 X50 in a water-proof plastic housing secured out of sight inside my fairing. Its earphone output is wired to a radar Screamer mounted on the instrument panel. There is a separate three-position switch mounted at the left clip-on switch cluster that selects the Screamer audio output HIGH/OFF/LOW, (conveniently operated with your thumb). I have the radar detector and the Screamer powered by via a relay-operated power distribution block that supplies power only when the ignition switch is on, which prevents unwanted power drain. My heated gear is powered via the same power distribution block.

You want to program the radar detector sensitivity and select only those alerts you want before mounting it where there is no ready access. Grocery store door openers and speed sensors usually operate on X-band; police radars usually operate on Ka-band, (except a few agencies may still use old X-band units). By disabling X-band, you don't have the Screamer going off when (hopefully) there is no police radar operating in the vicinity. The Screamer is extremely loud on the HIGH setting. I wear 33dB ear plugs, and the alert from the Screamer is easily heard under any condition. I've detected Ka-band radars as far as a mile away. Because the detector is mounted within the fairing, there is no way to detect LIDAR but, as others have noted, if you're hit by LIDAR, it's too late to do anything about it.

One benefit of having the radar detector out of sight is that it won't antagonize a police officer if you should get stopped, and the function of the small 2" Piezo-electric Screamer isn't recognized by the uninformed. Another benefit of having it out of sight is that it's secure. No putting it on, cabling it up, taking it off, etc. I'm really happy with the Screamer, having used this specific unit for over 20 years and 300,000 miles without a glitch.

See Radar Screamer

The Screamer cable plugs directly into the Escort Passport earphone jack. If you plan to use a Valentine radar detector, you need an adapting component to interface with the Screamer.

It's possible to wire a single LED directly to the earphone jack of the Escort Passport detector, with its intensity controlled by the volume control on the detector. One rider has that single LED mounted at the upper edge of their windscreen where peripheral vision picks it up.
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Edited by MarvTravis on Jun 9th 2020 at 03:17 PM
Jun 9th 2020, 09:45 AM   #10
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  Feb 2016
  Seattle

I just use Waze. Crowd source my cop detection. Works well in the city, but not so great outside of populated areas.
Jun 9th 2020, 10:36 AM   #11
 GPD323's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Spanaway

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMikeMike
I just use Waze. Crowd source my cop detection. Works well in the city, but not so great outside of populated areas.
Escort has Escort Live which is an app on your phone that gives real time alerts from other riders/drivers ahead and behind you. Lets say a person with Escort 10 miles ahead of you encounters a radar trap or signal, your phone running the Live app instantly lets you know of this. Its map based so you have map detail and know where that trap/radar hit was as you get closer. It tells you what kind of radar/laser it was. K/KA/Laser (I have x-band tuned off). It really works well, but it can chew through your data plan.

The Escort also alerts you to red light cameras, and known speed traps.

I usually don't have my phone visible when riding, although its connected to my SENA so I can get calls. I run GPS and a SPOT.
Jun 9th 2020, 04:38 PM   #12
 
  Mar 2018
  Olympia

  2016 Kawasaki Z1000,2015 Polaris sportsman XP1000,2017 Ktm 690 enduro R
Quote:
Originally Posted by chinook rider
Radar detectors do they work? are they legal? can you adapt them to a bike? what are the best ones?

The cops are out in full force state, county and city, they are giving tickets like there is no tomorrow. I recently got a ticket in an area I haven't seen a cop in 5 years plus. They are swarming like flies on Hilarys stanky unwiped ass. It has taken the joy of riding out of me as I am looking over my shoulder and trying to keep my speed down. So am looking for advise on detectors, thank you!
Fixed it for you
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Jun 11th 2020, 04:44 AM   #13
 ZXtasy's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Moses Lake, WA

  2013 Kawasaki Concours C-14, 2005 ZX-10R Kawasaki (Nekkid), '99 Yamaha TW-200
I have been pulled over riding fast in a group with 2 guys that had detectors, (Illegal in Canada at the time), and I have been lost the worst with a guy who had a new GPS, so I try not to rely on electronics and just roll the dice and choose the times and rust my 'Spidey Sense'
Jun 11th 2020, 09:25 PM   #14
 Willow's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Silverdale, WA

  848evo, DRZ400SM, XR100
Example today:
I had to drive to Walla Walla from Silverdale. Yes, it was going off a lot around the heavy populated traffic areas because of the new cars, but I turn the volume down. I don't really rely on it in high volume areas anyway.

On Hwy 18 heading to I-90, some where just past Maple Valley, all of a sudden the KA band goes off. I slowed down 10 miles per/hr and came around a bend, and voila............ there's Mr. Nice guy. Yes, it does work
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Jun 13th 2020, 04:37 PM   #15
 
  Jan 2016
  Gig Harbor

  BMW F650GS / BMW R12R
I appreciate my radar detector the most on those nice 2nd/3rd gear roads that often have ridiculous 35 mph speed limits but beg to be ridden a little more briskly. I’ve been saved several times in that situation...detector lights up, slow down through the corner, and there’s a lonely deputy looking to add a little variety to his/her day by writing a citation. I’m glad to have the technology available.
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