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Apr 19th 2019, 07:24 PM   #1
 Oregon Motorcycle's Avatar
 
  Mar 2019
  oregon

Stripped Drain Plug & Having Fun

Went to change the oil on my 04 r6 and found a stripped drain plug. I tried the socket, vise grips, oversized channel locks, and finally a hammer and chisel with a lil heat. Having no luck I called for help, which was good because I learned a few things. Cheers to good friends

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Apr 19th 2019, 08:26 PM   #2
 
  Jan 2017
  Vancouver,Washington

  1999 kawasaki zx6r NINJA
love this thing .. bought jsut for drain plug's on car's and bike sprigs back to fit snug on almost any thing..
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Apr 19th 2019, 09:07 PM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2012 Ninja 250
Sweet, an oil thread! Good job getting that bolt off.

I use diesel oil in my bike, Shell Rotella T6, buy it by the gallon. You don't need motorcycle specific oil, that's just a gimmick they use to charge you more. Just make sure the oil you use has the JASO-MA rating and you're good to go.
Apr 19th 2019, 10:03 PM   #4
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  Apr 2019
  Swisshome

  Nunya
I used a Dremel with a chainsaw sharpening bit once to shave fresh edges into a stripped drain plug on my Impala.
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Apr 19th 2019, 10:09 PM   #5
 
  Apr 2019
  McMinnville, OR

  2004 Suzuki SV650
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Originally Posted by Oregon Motorcycle
Went to change the oil on my 04 r6 and found a stripped drain plug. I tried the socket, vise grips, oversized channel locks, and finally a hammer and chisel with a lil heat. Having no luck I called for help, which was good because I learned a few things. Cheers to good friends

I hate it when people over tighten things...especially on purpose. For instance I had some new tires installed at TNT MotorSports in Mac a couple days ago. The same day I removed the chain guard to clean and oil my chain. One screw was easy to get off the other not so much. Took everything I had to loosen it and I'm no slouch. Not only that but one of the bar ends i noticed was about to fall out, but coincidence I'm sure . Let's see what else, the first guy was super negative and the other guy misquoted me on the price of doing the job the week prior. Doing just about everything myself from now on, still waiting on the Haynes manual to arrive.
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Apr 20th 2019, 05:42 AM   #6
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  Jan 2016
  Small Island Surrounded by Puget Sound

  07 Buell XB12STT, (Two) 12 Suzuki DR650 SE 72BMWR75/5 KIA @ 243K
You should remove drain plugs with a 6-Point Box End Wrench or 6-Point Socket. Open End and 12-Point wrenches can slip rounding out the plug.

If the plug is super tight you may have to shock it. Heavily built wrenches like Craftsman impact nicely with a ballpean. If you have enough room you can use an electric impacter and socket.
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Apr 20th 2019, 05:59 AM   #7
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  Mar 2019
  oregon

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Originally Posted by Silverbullet
love this thing .. bought jsut for drain plug's on car's and bike sprigs back to fit snug on almost any thing..
I can remember watching infomercials on this socket when I was a kid. It crossed my mind when I was doing this too.
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Apr 20th 2019, 06:07 AM   #8
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  Mar 2019
  oregon

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Originally Posted by Ralgha
Sweet, an oil thread! Good job getting that bolt off.

I use diesel oil in my bike, Shell Rotella T6, buy it by the gallon. You don't need motorcycle specific oil, that's just a gimmick they use to charge you more. Just make sure the oil you use has the JASO-MA rating and you're good to go.
Ya you know Im pretty sure Ive used regular "car" oil before.

My helper, had a bad experience before and told me this, He put regular car oil in a wet clutch bike. Clutch slipped on the bike and was un ridable. He attempted to flush it out by using several different techniques. He got the right oil in the bike and got it running, but the clutch was never the same he said. He ended up selling the bike. I trust this guy, Ive known him for years and have even bought a car from him. He's a total gear head with motorcycles littered throughout his garage But that doesn't make anyone an expert.

After hearing that and then hopping on google, I decided to go get some MC oil just to be on the safe side. The YamaLube ended up being cheaper too.

Now after all this, Im now concerned with ticking time bomb K&N oil filter Damit Google....
Apr 20th 2019, 06:10 AM   #9
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  Mar 2019
  oregon

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Originally Posted by MMcN49
You should remove drain plugs with a 6-Point Box End Wrench or 6-Point Socket. Open End and 12-Point wrenches can slip rounding out the plug.

If the plug is super tight you may have to shock it. Heavily built wrenches like Craftsman impact nicely with a ballpean. If you have enough room you can use an electric impacter and socket.
Great advice.

Just to be clear, I didn't stripped the bolt. It came that way to me.
Apr 20th 2019, 06:57 AM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  Small Island Surrounded by Puget Sound

  07 Buell XB12STT, (Two) 12 Suzuki DR650 SE 72BMWR75/5 KIA @ 243K
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Originally Posted by Oregon Motorcycle
Just to be clear, I didn't stripped the bolt. It came that way to me.
Not in any way being accusatory just wanted to get that simple tip out there. A mechanic I know said at his shop they always over torque, over tighten filters and plugs. If something works loose engine damage could be on them. If a customer buggers up a filter or plug doing his own oil change, that's all on him. Additionally you should use a new crush washer at every oil change

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Now after all this, Im now concerned with ticking time bomb K&N oil filter Damit Google....
Just a suggestion but if you're concerned about the filter just put the bike back on the stands and change it. $10 filter vs a thousand dollar engine rebuild. I've been using NAPA Gold filters on the Buell's for years with no issues
Apr 20th 2019, 07:11 AM   #11
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2012 Ninja 250
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Originally Posted by Oregon Motorcycle
Ya you know Im pretty sure Ive used regular "car" oil before.

My helper, had a bad experience before and told me this, He put regular car oil in a wet clutch bike. Clutch slipped on the bike and was un ridable. He attempted to flush it out by using several different techniques. He got the right oil in the bike and got it running, but the clutch was never the same he said. He ended up selling the bike. I trust this guy, Ive known him for years and have even bought a car from him. He's a total gear head with motorcycles littered throughout his garage But that doesn't make anyone an expert.

After hearing that and then hopping on google, I decided to go get some MC oil just to be on the safe side. The YamaLube ended up being cheaper too.

Now after all this, Im now concerned with ticking time bomb K&N oil filter Damit Google....
You have to make sure the oil has the JASO-MA rating, that's for the wet clutch. If it has it, you're fine, if it doesn't, all bets are off and your bike could end up like your buddy's.

I've been using K&N filters for years with no ill effects, though I will admit that I've been meaning to switch.
Apr 20th 2019, 07:17 AM   #12
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  Apr 2019
  Swisshome

  Nunya
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Originally Posted by Oregon Motorcycle
I can remember watching infomercials on this socket when I was a kid. It crossed my mind when I was doing this too.
Wasn't it called the "Gator Grip" or something to that effect?
Apr 20th 2019, 10:14 AM   #13
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  Sep 2017
  milwaukie oregon

  gsxr600 gsxr750 gsxr1000 i like gsxrs
I had an old disposable dirtbike for a few years and the drain plug was beyond stripped had tried to been extracted and been ground down to nothing and instead of messing with it I just pop a case cover off put the bike on its side and dump the oil out once a year when I changed it, pretty ghetto but it worked good.
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Apr 20th 2019, 10:22 AM   #14
 
  Jan 2016
  SE PDX

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Originally Posted by unicykle
I had an old disposable dirtbike for a few years and the drain plug was beyond stripped had tried to been extracted and been ground down to nothing and instead of messing with it I just pop a case cover off put the bike on its side and dump the oil out once a year when I changed it, pretty ghetto but it worked good.
I had a 67 cb450, same situation. I used a cheap harbor freight hand pump to run a tube in the filler hole to the bottom of the case and just pumped the oil out.
Apr 20th 2019, 03:17 PM   #15
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  Mar 2019
  oregon

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Originally Posted by Dragon Rider
I had a 67 cb450, same situation. I used a cheap harbor freight hand pump to run a tube in the filler hole to the bottom of the case and just pumped the oil out.
I tried getting a hose down the dip stick hole to try and suck it out, but it was just too small. This is actually a great way to change the oil in a car. Especially when the filter sits up top.
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