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Oct 14th 2017, 09:51 AM   #1
Rix
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  Apr 2016
  tacoma

  2014 vstrom 650, 2005 fz1, 82 cm400, 82 450 nighthawk, 83 virago 500, 71 cb175, 70 cl100, 1984 magna
manuals

repair manuals....
clymer or haynes, or like the cars, fuck that and pony up for the oem?
Oct 14th 2017, 09:56 AM   #2
 Cougar's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Richland

  Yamaha FZ1, KTM Super Duke GT, Yamaha FJR, Yamaha XS650
Oem
Oct 14th 2017, 10:34 AM   #3
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
interwebz ftw.

http://mototh.com/files/kawasaki/140...ice-Manual.pdf
Oct 14th 2017, 11:24 AM   #4
 SilvieFox's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  welches, Oregon

  2008 Kawasaki Versys (Sylvester), 1972 Suzuki RV90 (vanvan), 1981 Honda TwinStar (Bobber),yamaha 225
oem is normally best but ive found for most hondas(older ones) haynes are a bit better, but all of them you can find online, easiest way is to go to a forum for that make and model of bike and look on there, 90% of the time there will be a link to a manual archive
Oct 14th 2017, 02:48 PM   #5
 WarpShatner7's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Stumpy Puddleton

  R1200ST, CB350
Haynes are nearly always written by disassembling and reassembling the vehicle, and that's most of what they cover. Useful up to a point but not really the same thing as real world maintenance. Clymer tends to be a bit more thorough about what is actually involved in servicing the bike and it's often pretty clear that they at least had access to a service manual when writing it. But all that varies by vehicle. I found a Haynes very helpful when doing a full body-off engine-out restoration of a 1965 Triumph convertible, but I've generally found Clymer better for routine real-world use.

The OEM service manual is really great to have and if you're lucky someone has scanned it and you can find a download link buried in a forum somewhere.
Oct 14th 2017, 03:28 PM   #6
Rix
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  Apr 2016
  tacoma

  2014 vstrom 650, 2005 fz1, 82 cm400, 82 450 nighthawk, 83 virago 500, 71 cb175, 70 cl100, 1984 magna
Yeah finding the online manuals is fine, but I do like having the thing in print as well.
I've yet to see the inside of a clymer manual.
I have a Haynes for one of the old bikes....it's so-so
Oct 14th 2017, 04:08 PM   #7
 WarpShatner7's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Stumpy Puddleton

  R1200ST, CB350
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rix
Yeah finding the online manuals is fine, but I do like having the thing in print as well.
Yeah, on the one hand it's a lot easier to wipe dirty oil off of a tablet screen than a paper manual, but on the other it can be hard to read in direct sunlight, tends to slide off of whatever you rest it on and go bang on the floor or get stuck inside whatever you're working on, and not all touchscreens work well with neoprene gloves.
Oct 14th 2017, 08:37 PM   #8
Rix
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  Apr 2016
  tacoma

  2014 vstrom 650, 2005 fz1, 82 cm400, 82 450 nighthawk, 83 virago 500, 71 cb175, 70 cl100, 1984 magna
Zoning and swiping back and forth is frustrating as hell too. I'm usually on my phone.....
Oct 15th 2017, 11:13 AM   #9
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  Sep 2017
  Kingston, WA

  1976 Honda CB500T - highly customized.
OEM all the way. Especially if it's an older bike. Haynes is slightly better than Clymer.
Oct 15th 2017, 11:14 AM   #10
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  Sep 2017
  Kingston, WA

  1976 Honda CB500T - highly customized.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rix
Yeah finding the online manuals is fine, but I do like having the thing in print as well.
I've yet to see the inside of a clymer manual.
I have a Haynes for one of the old bikes....it's so-so
So take the pdf to Kinko's and have them print it for you. It doesn't cost much.
Oct 15th 2017, 04:19 PM   #11
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
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kinkos
work
Oct 16th 2017, 02:13 PM   #12
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  Apr 2016
  Renton

I've found that a one sheet printout of my OEM manual gets used more than the rest of the book. It's simply the torque values for every fastener on the bike.

Brake pads? Done it a dozen times, but what the hell was the torque on the caliper bolts again?

Chain replacement? Piece of cake... but what was the torque on that front sprocket?

Same for the handlebar bolts, front axle pinch bolts, etc, etc.
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