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Jun 14th 2016, 08:37 PM   #1
 lazyeye's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Lebanon, OR

  2014 Interceptor, 2012 ZX6R
K&N Oil Filter Failure

This weekend the K&N 204 filter on my Interceptor catastrophically failed and left me on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere.

It cracked right across the top.
My guess is using the nut to tighten it to Honda specified torque may have compromised the case, and when the oil pressure got up (during a pass) it failed.
I'm lucky that I didn't crashed as there was oil spewing all over my tires.
So lesson learned, don't use the nut to tighten it. Given that there's no space to work with on the US Interceptor that means I won't be using K&N ever again.

As always, your results may vary. This seems to be a common issue though of late.
Jun 14th 2016, 08:56 PM   #2
 Pigs's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Portland

  bicicleta
I was advised in another thread not to use k&n oil filters, and I'm glad I switched to oem since
Jun 14th 2016, 09:00 PM   #3
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  Mar 2016
  PNW

  Ducati ST4s, Ducati Monster, R1 CLE
Never use the nut to tighten, only to remove.

Good to know that everything ended as well as it possibly could, considering the circumstances. You have your bike and your good health. Nothing that a few good cans of engine degreaser will not fix. Like you said, lesson learned. I'm happy for you that it didn't end worse.
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Jun 14th 2016, 09:01 PM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  NW

Thanks for the heads up, that could have been much worse.
Jun 14th 2016, 09:07 PM   #5
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  Feb 2016
  Washington

That's pretty incredible.

I've never been tempted to use one.
Jun 14th 2016, 09:35 PM   #6
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  bicicleta
Quote:
Originally Posted by ronin
Never use the nut to tighten, only to remove.

Good to know that everything ended as well as it possibly could, considering the circumstances. You have your bike and your good health. Nothing that a few good cans of engine degreaser will not fix. Like you said, lesson learned. I'm happy for you that it didn't end worse.
Then how do you suggest to tighten it?
Jun 14th 2016, 09:48 PM   #7
 
  May 2016
  Port Orchard, WA

  R1200RT, DR650
I usually do 'em by hand, but I've seen people do it with a strap wrench (very gently in the latter case, they don't need to be hulk-smashed into place). They generally only want about half to three quarters of a turn once they're snugged up. Overcompressing the little elastomer gasket degrades the seal pretty bad.
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Jun 14th 2016, 11:28 PM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

There are a few racing Org's that are banning use of all aftermarket oil filters including WMRRA.

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Jun 15th 2016, 06:47 AM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Buckley

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pigs
Then how do you suggest to tighten it?
as with all oil filters you hand tighten, then use the strap wrench with a 1/4-1/2 turn to snug it.
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Jun 15th 2016, 06:53 AM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  welches, Oregon

  2008 Kawasaki Versys (Sylvester), 1972 Suzuki RV90 (vanvan), 1981 Honda TwinStar (Bobber),yamaha 225
cut it open and see how shitty there filter has become over the years and you wont use k&n and more like me
Jun 15th 2016, 07:51 AM   #11
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  bicicleta
Angry

Quote:
Originally Posted by tchase
as with all oil filters you hand tighten, then use the strap wrench with a 1/4-1/2 turn to snug it.
This what my service manual say:
Quote:
○Handtightening of the oil filter can not be allowed since it does not reach to this tightening torque
Jun 15th 2016, 11:47 AM   #12
 MotoCT's Avatar
 
  May 2016
  Troutdale

  09 ZX6R Monster Energy
I have also had the nut strip on me using the k &n while trying to remove them which leads to a real headache because your standard oil filter adapter will not fit over the nut and grab the filter. Glad you stayed upright! I've heard of these things failing before as well
Jun 15th 2016, 01:10 PM   #13
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  Jan 2016
  Buckley

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pigs
This what my service manual say:
That is why you hand tight then use the strap wrench to achieve final torque 1/4-1/2 turn
Jul 11th 2016, 07:33 AM   #14
 
  Jul 2016
  Clackamas

  2017 KLR650
I too read last fall about the K&N failures so I stopped using them (Have 303 in my shop if anyone wants a free one...)

I switched to Hi-Flo but now see they too have a nut, I tighten by hand but are these filters on the list of no-go?

And, do you guys have an online source for OEM or do you hit the shops?

Thanks,
Jul 11th 2016, 12:30 PM   #15
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  Jan 2016
  Pullman, WA

  '73 CB350F, '86 VFR750F, '00 Aprilia RS250, '04 Aprilia RSV1000 R Factory(x2), '07 Star 1100 Classic
K&N fiters are made by the same people that make Hi-Flo filters.

That said, I've never had a problem on any bike or car I've used K&N filters on. YMMV, of course.

Napa Gold filters are the same as WIX, and I've used those as well on most everything that doesn't have a K&N. Might have to switch to the NAPA Platinum for a while, since this isn't the first time I've heard about declining quality of K&N.
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