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Aug 8th 2017, 05:58 PM   #1
 
  Feb 2016
  Spokane

  Vstrom 1000, DRZ 400 XR600 and way to many vintage mxers to list
Dealer Responsibility regarding a New Motorcycle

I noticed this topic being discussed in a thread about Mic getting a new motorcycle.

As a former dealer I wanted to make a comment about selling a new motorcycle with zero miles on the odometer from an authorized dealership.

When I was a Suzuki dealer my dealership agreement required that every new street legal motorcycle sold off of the floor had to have a minimum test ride of 5 miles. The language was quite explicit in the dealership agreement.

My Beta dealership agreement did not have such language but did recommend every motorcycle be test ridden before sold.

My Vespa and Moto Guzzi dealership agreement had the explicit language.

I don't know about the other manufactures.
Aug 8th 2017, 08:04 PM   #2
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  Feb 2016
  Bellingham, WA

  Yamaha FZ-07
My bike came from the dealer with six miles on the odometer. I like to think that was from a very thorough test ride by a knowledgeable technician.
Aug 8th 2017, 10:38 PM   #3
 
  Apr 2016
  WA

The last three new bikes I have purchased had 1 mile registered. My guess is the lap around the parking lot after PDI?
Aug 9th 2017, 09:59 AM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  all of them
Swell topic op. Was not aware you are a former dealership owner.

Guidelines for new new bike delivery from the manufacturers are, of course, a "thing". With zero exceptions, any new bike dealer would want those guidelines adhered to and/or exceeded. For reasons that are so obvious it seems silly to even have a discussion about it. Yet here we are.

In the other thread, if memory serves, the new bike was delivered to the owner with "0" on the odometer. That is beyond ridiculous and bordering on absurd. An absolute failure by the dealership and a true disservice to the new owner.

A new bike delivered with "1" is in the same ballpark.

Strangely, after pointing out the glaring issues in the other thread, I was accused of "chest puffing".

There is an old saying that starts "You can lead a horse to water..."
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Aug 9th 2017, 11:41 AM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  space needle

All I wanted to know is if Mic & his cb are still having a blast!

They're likely used to seeing zero problems with the new Japanese and German bikes and don't really bother with the test rides if a binding legal agreement hasn't been made to do them. Break-in is the owner's responsibility right?
Aug 10th 2017, 08:56 AM   #6
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  Jan 2016
  Kirkland, WA

  Kawasaki ZX-14
I don't know about the rest of the members of this forum, but I thoroughly enjoy and appreciate the thoughtful and knowledgeable posts Kie makes from time to time. Let's not get carried away reading something into posts that isn't intended.
Aug 10th 2017, 05:13 PM   #7
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Triumph Street Twin
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Originally Posted by Nathan
All I wanted to know is if Mic & his cb are still having a blast!

They're likely used to seeing zero problems with the new Japanese and German bikes and don't really bother with the test rides if a binding legal agreement hasn't been made to do them. Break-in is the owner's responsibility right?
Now that's funny.
Aug 10th 2017, 07:42 PM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  Beijing

  Honda CBF190R
My new Honda CB190 had 15 kilometers on the odometer when I took it from the dealership. I stopped to take some photos on my first ride, and decided to look under the seat. I found a ziplock bag with the owner's manual and toolkit stuffed into the air intake. After removing the blockage, the bike ran a lot better!
Aug 11th 2017, 07:21 AM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  space needle

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Originally Posted by liberpolly
Now that's funny.
yeah I should've looked it up first lol

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...ycle/index.htm

I think I'll forgo the HP4 and stick with Kaw
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Aug 11th 2017, 08:19 AM   #10
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  Jun 2017
  Glacier, WA

  FZ09/CB400
I worked at a BMW moto dealer for 5 years as a service advisor. Every bike had to HAVE at least 3 miles on it before being sold for warranty reasons. Certain models/years had to have over 100.
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Aug 12th 2017, 08:42 PM   #11
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  Jan 2016
  SeaTac

It was pouring down rain when I picked up my 2012 Suzuki VStrom. The Mech was standing in the shop door looking miserable and said 'he would test ride it if I wanted him too'. I had on full rain gear and took the bike with '0' miles on it and rode it for 160 miles to get it home. All good.
Aug 13th 2017, 07:35 AM   #12
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  Jan 2016
  Spanaway

My C14 came out of a box, was assembled and I rode it away with Zero miles on it. I did get the dealer prep paperwork, very detailed list.
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