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Sep 21st 2016, 07:48 AM   #1
Rix
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  Apr 2016
  tacoma

  2014 vstrom 650, 2007 mf150-4n, 82 cm400, 82 450 nighthawk, 83 virago 500, 71 cb175, 70 cl100
Chain tools?

What're you using?
Sep 21st 2016, 07:59 AM   #2
 Tripledij's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Custer WA

  Aprilia Tuono
Motion Pro PBR

Motion Pro PBR Motorcycle Chain Tool Kit Breaker Press Rivet Master Link Street | eBay

Edit to add: I tried one of the Horrible Freight tools, it was toast after the first use even though I ground the heads off of the rivets before pressing them out. You will thank yourself later if you spend a little more now on a quality tool.
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Edited by Tripledij on Sep 21st 2016 at 08:02 AM
Sep 21st 2016, 08:51 AM   #3
 HalcyonSon's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Renton

I think mine is Motion Pro - looks exactly like the "Jumbo" and has all the same parts. I didn't pay anything close to $125 for it though. Haven't broken a single pin in 3 or 4 chain swaps. I've never ground the rivets down. As long as the outer sleeve is aligned correctly and tightened, the inner pin will push the rivet right out the bottom.

Motion Pro Jumbo Chain Tool - Motorcycle Superstore
Sep 21st 2016, 09:22 AM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  welches, Oregon

  2008 Kawasaki Versys (Sylvester), 1972 Suzuki RV90 (vanvan), 1981 Honda TwinStar (Bobber),yamaha 225
for cleaning i use WD40 and a grutbrush and shop rag, for lube i use lithium WD40 , for alignment i use the motion pro tool, for chain removal i have a clip master pin so i just use a pair of channle locks that i found in a volvo that i files the tip of a bit to make it hook on to the link.
Sep 21st 2016, 11:09 AM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  Off Line

I have a DID KM500 riveting tool that I purchased back in 2006. Since then, I've upgraded the riveting pin to the newer "500R" model (which DID recommends for their newer ZVM-X chains).



It works extremely well, and is a high quality, durable tool. The only down sides to it are price (upwards of $130), and (as compared to other brands/designs) it doesn't have its own handle (have to use a second wrench). The latter is a minor issue for me as I have a 23mm box end to hold the tool, while flaring the rivet with a socket wrench.

Having said that,...

I have also used one of these:


Stockton Chain Breaker And Rivet Tool Kit.

Guess what? It also works very well, and typically is on sale at Cycle gear for $30. I know that curveaddict has one and has used it for many chain replacements, so it is a durable product (at least in regards to riveting).

One additional side note. If you've never broken a chain before, be advised that there is often a crucial step missing from many chain tool/chain breaker tool instructions. You want to first grind down the rivet heads before using the chain breaker cutting pin to break the chain. This is especially important when breaking OEM continuous link chains where the riveted links have a stronger and tougher rivet head. Even if you are replacing an aftermarket chain that has a rivet style master link, I would still advise grinding down the master link's rivets before breaking the chain. It only takes a few minutes, helps protect your tool, and makes it a lot easier breaking the chain.
Sep 21st 2016, 11:35 AM   #6
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  Jan 2016
  Ferndale Washington

  ZX10-R GSXR 600 Track Bike
$15.00 Harbor Freight...Not Rocket Science Been using the same one for 7 years now and many chains later ...Still works just fine.
Sep 21st 2016, 11:54 AM   #7
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  Jan 2016
  Buckley

  BMW R1100S '98 HD FXD
Wasn't there a guy that used a rock and a padlock as a chain tool? Didn't he also badmouth the PO about the poor condition of his bike?

Chop
Sep 21st 2016, 12:33 PM   #8
Rix
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  Apr 2016
  tacoma

  2014 vstrom 650, 2007 mf150-4n, 82 cm400, 82 450 nighthawk, 83 virago 500, 71 cb175, 70 cl100
Ok, cool. Thanks guys.
I have a clip style master link ordered anyway, But I'm at 6 bikes now. I think I need to get a set of tools.
Sep 21st 2016, 12:55 PM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Kirkland, WA

  Kawasaki ZX-14
If you are installing a Regina chain, the standard rivet tool won't work to peen the master link; it takes a special tool. If you try to peen a Regina master link with the standard rivet tool, you will probably break the tool.

See Stupid Regina chain | Adventure Rider
Sep 21st 2016, 01:30 PM   #10
 Tripledij's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Custer WA

  Aprilia Tuono
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarvTravis
If you are installing a Regina chain, the standard rivet tool won't work to peen the master link; it takes a special tool. If you try to peen a Regina master link with the standard rivet tool, you will probably break the tool.

The MP PBR tool I linked to above can also do a quad stake, which according to a quick internet search, works on the Regina chains.
Sep 25th 2016, 07:13 PM   #11
 
  Jan 2016
  Renton

  2011 Triumph Daytona 675, 1975 Honda CB550K1
Quick tip: a bit of oil or grease on the threads will help with the tool longevity and feel when peening the rivets, especially with the cheap tools. So far I'm 3 chains in with my Stockton tool, will probably get a few more out of it I figure.

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Dec 10th 2016, 06:22 AM   #12
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  Jan 2016
  Spanaway

Because Jim (Dragracer1951) recommended the RK UTC4060 thats the one I bought years ago.

Used it 4 times since then and it works and does not break. Yes its expensive but Amazon has it for less that Revzilla.

I have not used it as a chain cutter, I use a small dremel and cutoff wheel for that.

https://www.amazon.com/RK-UCT-4060-U.../dp/B0087Y493A
Dec 12th 2016, 04:50 PM   #13
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  Apr 2016
  Auburn, WA

  ...1987 Yamaha FZR1000...
Quote:
Originally Posted by fiveohford
Quick tip: a bit of oil or grease on the threads will help with the tool longevity and feel when peening the rivets, especially with the cheap tools. So far I'm 3 chains in with my Stockton tool, will probably get a few more out of it I figure.

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Have done close to 100 chain replacements with the same lowly Stockton. It still works fine. I ground the pin/rivet heads down beforehand, every time. Food for thought.
Dec 12th 2016, 06:09 PM   #14
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  Jan 2016
  Richland

  Yamaha FZ1, Ducati 1198S, Yamaha FJR, Yamaha XS650
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arnbo
$15.00 Harbor Freight...Not Rocket Science Been using the same one for 7 years now and many chains later ...Still works just fine.
I broke a HF one the first time that I used it. I now have a Motion Pro.
Dec 12th 2016, 06:12 PM   #15
 
  Aug 2016
  Snohomish county WA

  2002 FZ1 , 1979 gs425 project
Motion Pro here also. Nice tool.
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