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Dec 2nd 2017, 12:04 PM   #1
 Transported's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2006 FZ1, 1999 R1
Battery Question

My 2006 Yamaha FZ1 needs a new battery. I looked up what model is required and it says a YTZ 14S. The question I have is that some of these can be bought for $29 and some are over $200 (like from a dealer or even a brand like Yuasa from Amazon).

Should I just get one in the midrange, which is about $55 made by MMG? Or spend three times as much for a Yuasa?

I read about batteries and unless one maintains them meticulously, any battery only lasts about 48 months. I can replace a cheaper battery three times before I reach the cost of the Yuasa.

Thanks for any knowledgeable advice.
Dec 2nd 2017, 12:26 PM   #2
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  Jan 2016
  Spanaway

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Originally Posted by Transported
My 2006 Yamaha FZ1 needs a new battery. I looked up what model is required and it says a YTZ 14S. The question I have is that some of these can be bought for $29 and some are over $200 (like from a dealer or even a brand like Yuasa from Amazon).

Should I just get one in the midrange, which is about $55 made by MMG? Or spend three times as much for a Yuasa?

I read about batteries and unless one maintains them meticulously, any battery only lasts about 48 months. I can replace a cheaper battery three times before I reach the cost of the Yuasa.

Thanks for any knowledgeable advice.

BatteryMart.com - The Best Value in Batteries! is what I used in the past.

I use the Big Crank AGM in all my bikes. I keep my bikes on battery maintainers all the time when they sit.

My Big Crank AGM lasted 8 years and I just replaced it last year on the Kawi with another BC.

I use Schumacher $20 charger/maintainer from Wally World.
Dec 2nd 2017, 01:08 PM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  Muklilteo, WA

  Suzuki DL1000, Honda XR650R, KTM 250 XC-W
I've had my Shorai over 6 years and never touched it except to transfer it to my new bike. And it saved about 8lbs.
Dec 2nd 2017, 03:10 PM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  Custer, WA

  Suzuki 09 GSXR 1000 Suzuki 09 DRZ 400SM 1970 Yamaha 250 DT1 Enduro
Try wwwBatteryStuff.com
Dec 2nd 2017, 03:40 PM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  Bremerton

  '12 Concours14, '08 GSX1300R, '06 GSX-R 750
You get what you pay for. Buy a cheap battery and you'll be replacing it next year. Buy a quality battery and it'll last a few years. Your choice.

Had a friend replace a battery for me while I was deployed and he went with a cheap one from the parts store. It lasted less than a year.

I buy Yuasa batteries. They're reliable and have always lasted years. I don't like LiFe batteries for a number of reasons and don't care about weight savings. If I need to shave a handful of lbs of the bike I'll eat less cheese burgers. Besides, I highly doubt my Consours14 or Busa have a difficult time dealing with the "extra" weight.
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Dec 2nd 2017, 05:27 PM   #6
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  Jan 2016
  Stumpy Puddleton

  R1200ST, CB350
Some years back I needed something quickly and was optimistic enough to get whatever they were selling at Batteries Plus, the "Xtreme AGM", which is presumably a relabeling of some other make. It was a shade tall but just about fit, and damned if it didn't last me a rock-solid 6 years, several of those years involving year-round commutes, others with weeks-long stretches of sitting unused without a battery tender, on a bike that does have a parasitic load. Never the slightest problem. I only replaced it because I was going on a long ride and decided it was time and not to press my luck, not because it was demonstrating any problems.

Not that I'd consider that single experience sufficient to endorse Batteries Plus -- I still replaced it with a Yuasa high amperage model, bought dry and prepped myself. I was just in a hurry that earlier time around. Still, a quick poke around the motorcycle forums seems to indicate people have had good experiences with Batteries Plus. And it's not like they're suspiciously cheap. Something to consider if you want someone local to honor the warranty and returns in case of problems.

Edited by WarpShatner7 on Dec 2nd 2017 at 07:52 PM
Dec 2nd 2017, 06:26 PM   #7
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  Jan 2016
  Port Orchard, Wa

  '03 Suzuki Marauder
I recently put a Ballistic Battery in my bike. It's much lighter than an AGM since it is a Lithium Ion battery. In the colder temps, I can get my bike started easier since the cranking amps increase as you attempt to start the bike, since the battery heats up and assists the overall capacity while it is cold.
Dec 2nd 2017, 07:43 PM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  Washington County

  H-D
Do you remember that battery problem with your R1? Down in Sweet Home wasn't it? At least your bike is at home. Good luck with this one amigo.

Edited by 307T on Dec 3rd 2017 at 12:09 AM
Dec 2nd 2017, 08:03 PM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2006 FZ1, 1999 R1
Oh, I remember the R1 battery problem. It ruined two good rides that year, one that you accompanied me from the ride back to make sure I got home. (Thanks again for doing that.)

I bought two expensive dealer batteries that died fast until I realized it was the rectifier that was bad and frying the batteries.

I am going to do a bit more research, but it seems to me at this point that if a regular battery lasts four years and costs about $50, it is a better value than spending $150 or more for one that gets perhaps two years more. I may not even have the bike for more than another year or two.

Edited by Transported on Dec 2nd 2017 at 08:09 PM
Dec 2nd 2017, 09:49 PM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  Washington County

  H-D
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Oh, I remember the R1 battery problem. It ruined two good rides that year, one that you accompanied me from the ride back to make sure I got home. (Thanks again for doing that.)
You're certainly welcome. You would have done the same for any of us.

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I bought two expensive dealer batteries that died fast until I realized it was the rectifier that was bad and frying the batteries.
I do remember that your battery and the bodywork around it was hotter than a two dollar pistol. I had to make the battery decision myself this year. I was thinking the same as you re: return on investment. I checked out a replacement from Batteries+. Although it was dimensionally the same and relatively inexpensive, the terminals were incorrectly oriented for my bike. I ended up spending $170 at the dealership. On a positive note (no pun intended), they gave me a trickle charger for free.
Dec 4th 2017, 09:34 AM   #11
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
For me the battery is one of those things like tires that you don't want to scrimp on. It's not about how long it will last but where it is going to leave you stranded.

Yuasa or Shorai every time.
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Dec 4th 2017, 05:52 PM   #12
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  Jan 2016
  Kennewick

  Triumph Explorer, Concours 1400, Husqvarna Strada, Ural Patrol and a shit load of BN125
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Originally Posted by sentinel
for me the battery is one of those things like tires that you don't want to scrimp on. It's not about how long it will last but where it is going to leave you stranded.

Yuasa or shorai every time.
Truth!
Dec 4th 2017, 06:07 PM   #13
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2006 FZ1, 1999 R1
I have been push starting my bike for a year now as the battery began to lose its juice. So a bulletproof battery is obvioulsly not high on my list.

I bought a mid priced battery and an add-on $10 two year replacement warranty, so I should be covered.
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