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Sep 14th 2016, 06:54 AM   #16
 CaptainAwesome's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  WA

  Lowrider S
Thanks for the leads. I may have to just grab a used one from bent bike today. Looks like they changed how they were made in 2014, the rotor around it is different too. If the new stator doesn't work with the old design this becomes $700 in parts pretty damn quick. I'm not a fan of used electronics but might be worth a shot. My bike is my daily driver so this is very inconvient lol
Sep 14th 2016, 07:32 AM   #17
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  Feb 2016
  Seattle

  ZX14 Barking Spider
Bent Bike has always struck me as a place that charges very high prices for very well worn stuff. I'd look on eBay or Amazon.

I cruise through on rare occasion to check out their used bikes. The 10-year-old 250 Ninja held together with wood screws was a particular chuckle. They only wanted something like $3000 for that gem.
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Edited by elSueco on Sep 14th 2016 at 07:43 AM
Sep 14th 2016, 08:09 AM   #18
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  Jan 2016
  Small Island Surrounded by Puget Sound

  07 Buell XB12STT, (Two) 12 Suzuki DR650 SE 72BMWR75/5 KIA @ 243K
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Originally Posted by elSueco
Bent Bike has always struck me as a place that charges very high prices for very well worn stuff.
Oh so very true, you have to know what the stuff is worth and haggle. I bought a 3-bolt right side Busa can for $25 and a pair of narrow dirt pegs for $20. Seeing how both are made of unobtanium couldn't get them to go any lower.

Captain Awesome - They're quite likely going out of business in a few months. Don't go there looking desperate, when they quote low ball the counter offer and keep haggling.
Sep 14th 2016, 08:15 AM   #19
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  Feb 2016
  Seattle

  ZX14 Barking Spider
And since you're going to be doing the job anyway, put one of these on:
https://www.amazon.com/Black-Stator-.../dp/B00ZR4OO4W

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Sep 14th 2016, 10:32 AM   #20
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  Jan 2016
  WA

  Lowrider S
... Crap I might have to, that's pretty cool.

I need to open it up today, possible I need to replace the rotor as well, Apprantly the magnets can come off the pre2014 design. Man this is going from an annoying problem to a damn spendy one lol
Sep 14th 2016, 01:35 PM   #21
 
  Feb 2016
  Pasco, WA

Yeah, the flywheel is the expensive part on the R1, the stator is cheap. I just did this about 2 months ago to my 2007 R1. The flywheel was $345, the stator only $28.

Changing it out isn't too much work. If it's like the R1, try to keep the flywheel in the engine while you remove the stator. It's a "cap" in the middle of the cover. That was a real pain when it all came out at once on mine, fell to the floor, and I couldn't figure out how to put it all back together again.

It is a bunch of money, but much cheaper to do the work yourself. I figure every time I work on it myself, I can afford a new tool or three.
Sep 14th 2016, 01:58 PM   #22
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  Jan 2016
  WA

  Lowrider S
$28 for the stator? Best I've found for mine is $215. If I need everything it's going to be like $700. Plus the tow and battery.

I'll open it up today. From what I've come across pre-2014 the rotor design wasn't ideal and the magnets on the inside would come off, which then explode into the engine. Sometimes they sorta partially go and don't get sucked in, which would explain why I'm not getting a strong volt reading if that's the case, or it fluttering.

Also a bearing with it that goes out. I just changed out my front sprocket and thought the whirring noise I had was coming from that, it seemed like more, I wasn't sure if I was just hearing it weird or something. But it wasn't that loud before hand. If it's the bearing in there that would explain the noise.

I'll know more in a couple hours. If you hear a loud curse you know what I found. Course with that being said, especially since we were looking to ride a little harder, when these things go out badly it kills the engine very hard, if it happened to me in a hard corner I'm not sure if would stay up without some serious skill.
Sep 14th 2016, 04:32 PM   #23
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  Jan 2016
  WA

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So, not sure if the stator is still good. The magnets on the rotor are toast, they've made a new version of this to keep it from happening. Bearing in the back is questionable. Everything came apart super, super easy. I've read a lot with people having to freeze things and use a heat gun, but nope... just popped right out. 2006, 50,000 miles. Maintained.

Need to drop the oil pan and make sure I don't have any fragments in there. Need to take the headers off to do that, annoying. But hey, at least I needed an oil change and it didn't happen in a corner. Here's hoping I can be back on the road within two weeks.

Edited by CaptainAwesome on Sep 14th 2016 at 04:34 PM
Sep 14th 2016, 07:13 PM   #24
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  Jan 2016
  WA

  Lowrider S
2D1-81410-10-00 STATOR ASSY
2SH-81450-00-00 ROTOR ASSY Generator
93210-18322-00 O-RING Starter
5VY-11478-00-00 COLLAR Starter
93306-20230-00 BEARING Starter
93306-20124-00 BEARING Crankcase Cover 1
2D1-15451-10-00 GASKET, CRANKCASE COVER 1 Crankcase Cover 1
4C8-13414-00-00 GASKET, STRAINER COVER Oil Cleaner


For anyone searching in the future.
Sep 14th 2016, 08:16 PM   #25
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  Feb 2016
  Seattle

  ZX14 Barking Spider
So... was it the stator?
Sep 14th 2016, 11:11 PM   #26
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  May 2016
  Olympia, WA

  1996 Kat 600 "Ras-tana"
iron man pic is too perfect....
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Sep 15th 2016, 01:06 AM   #27
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  Apr 2016
  Olympia

  2014 KTM DUKE 690
Could be a fuel pump going out.
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Sep 15th 2016, 03:54 AM   #28
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  Jan 2016
  WA

  Lowrider S
Magnets inside the rotor around the stator came loose, took out the stator. Apparently it's a common problem, they redesigned it in 2014 to not have this problem anymore. Needs a stator, new rotor and bearings. Explains the supercharger sound I had after we left Seattle, thought it was the new sprocket I put in.

Have to drop the oil pan and make sure there is no crap in there from it too. Gives me an excuse to polish my exhayst I suppose since I have to take that off to get the pan off.

Edited by CaptainAwesome on Sep 15th 2016 at 04:27 AM
Sep 15th 2016, 07:26 AM   #29
 
  Feb 2016
  Pasco, WA

Be thankful your flywheel doesn't look like this. I'll let you figure out which one is the new and which is the old.

Sep 15th 2016, 07:29 AM   #30
 
  Feb 2016
  Pasco, WA

That sure looks almost exactly like mine. I can't believe your stator is so much money.
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