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Jul 18th 2016, 09:24 AM   #1
 albatrosscafe's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Issaquah

  2015 Yamaha FZ-07
Question Anyone use Dry Lube for their chain?

Even though lubing the chain takes all but 2 minutes, it is something I detest. It is like hanging up your jacket instead of just throwing it over the couch. It takes no time but for some reason it is such a PITA. "I'll do it later" is commonly heard here.

I've always used standard lube for my chain every 250-350 miles if it rains or about 400-500 miles if it is dry. The overspray always gets on my wheel and is difficult to remove without something like engine degreaser. Not to mention the chain gets filthy and requires cleaning.

I've recently heard about dry lube for chains. It seems like a much cleaner solution overall. Does anyone here use it? Is it just as effective? Any concerns? What brand is recommended? I would love if it works just as well without the mess...
Jul 18th 2016, 09:57 AM   #2
 Kooma's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Portland

  Triumph TT600, Harley Ultra Classic, Yamaha R6, KTM 250sx
I use Maxima's chain wax, never had any problems.

As for cleaning wheels, I use WD-40 on a shop rag and it cleans it no problem.
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Jul 18th 2016, 10:29 AM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  Puyallup

  aprilia RSV4, aprilia Tuono 1100
So dry lube is polytetraflouroethylene, PTFE, commonly known as Teflon. We know it's slippery stuff and is an excellent lubricant, but it has issues.

Chief among my concerns would be that PTFE isn't compatible with oil and heat. A quick experiment with a cheap nonstick pan, a small amount of oil, I prefer avocado, and heat the pan to about 500°F for a few minutes should destroy the nonstick surface. Or you can read any manufacturers care instructions and they tell you not to do that.

Most chains are packed with grease and my chemistry background would tell me to remove that packing before using PTFE based lubricant and then only use that type for the life of the chain, no mixing. This route you should be fine, but I worried about causing issues with the seals on a new chain doing that.

I personally wouldn't use it on a motorcycle, they're just too much going on and the chain moves way too fast. My cousin uses it on his race road cycles, but it's a different thing altogether.

I do exactly what Kooma does. Maxima chain wax and WD-40.

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Jul 18th 2016, 10:43 AM   #4
 
  May 2016
  Port Orchard, WA

  R1200RT, DR650
I used that DuPont spray-lube that everybody used to recommend for chain maintenance, and it worked okay for the life of a couple chains on my old Weestrom. I do prefer just the plain ol' black spraycan Maxima wax that Kooma mentioned above though. It's cheap and they seem to sell it everywhere.

I just cut a little L-shaped piece of cardboard to sit behind (and below) the chain to catch overspray and drips.

I've been meaning to try out Go Wax (this stuff). Anybody tried it?
Jul 18th 2016, 12:43 PM   #5
 albatrosscafe's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Issaquah

  2015 Yamaha FZ-07
Ok, I'll stay way from the dry stuff, thanks for the info. Doesn't sound worth it. I'll try a pizza box behind or something when I spray. I don't have a rear wheel stand so it makes it a little harder.

Wish it was easy to convert Sportbikes to belt drive...
Jul 18th 2016, 12:54 PM   #6
 
  May 2016
  Port Orchard, WA

  R1200RT, DR650
How about a Harbor Freight lift or just some come-along straps under the swingarm leading up over a sturdy rafter or something?

I did something like this before I broke down and just bought a lift.
Jul 18th 2016, 01:36 PM   #7
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  '14 St3R, '05 DR650
I use Tirox Chain Wax. 12000 miles on the original chain on my Triumph, using only Tirox. Still looks brand new.

As for belt drive... there's a reason no one uses belts on sport bikes anymore.

Edited by wooden on Jul 18th 2016 at 01:40 PM
Jul 18th 2016, 02:11 PM   #8
 Greg's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  PDX

  L3 GSX-R750, Versys LT
I've been using Bel Ray Blue Tac since last year after reading some reviews. It goes on thin, seems to last well without collecting dirt, and cleans off well (i use the maxima chain cleaner). I can get a good coating on the critical chain parts without it building up.

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Jul 18th 2016, 06:27 PM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle ,Wa

  Burgman 400, TW200, Boulevard M50, 2018 Indian Scout 1131, 2018 Indian Chieftain Classic
I actually spray Dry Lube 620 3-8 ( Ty8) on a daily basis, steel and titanium have to be baked a 375F for at least an hour after application. You guys ain't talkin about this chit are ya?

EverlubeŽ 620C

Jul 18th 2016, 06:58 PM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  Puyallup

  aprilia RSV4, aprilia Tuono 1100
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suzuki Stevo
I actually spray Dry Lube 620 3-8 ( Ty8) on a daily basis, steel and titanium have to be baked a 375F for at least an hour after application. You guys ain't talkin about this chit are ya?

EverlubeŽ 620C

No that's Moly-Graphite... completely different stuff
Jul 18th 2016, 08:18 PM   #11
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  Jan 2016
  Bremerton

  07 XB12 Buell Lightning
White lithium grease.
That's what your chain came packed with from the factory. Why would you want to use anything else?
I used a piece of cardboard for a while so as to not spray it all over the wheel.
Then I learned to just be a little careful.
Cheap and you can get it anywhere
Cleans easily with Simple Green.
Jul 19th 2016, 03:54 AM   #12
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  Jan 2016
  Ferndale Washington

  ZX10-R GSXR 600 Track Bike
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kooma
I use Maxima's chain wax, never had any problems.

As for cleaning wheels, I use WD-40 on a shop rag and it cleans it no problem.
+1
Jul 19th 2016, 08:30 AM   #13
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  '14 St3R, '05 DR650
Quote:
Originally Posted by dragracer1951
White lithium grease.
That's what your chain came packed with from the factory. Why would you want to use anything else?
I used a piece of cardboard for a while so as to not spray it all over the wheel.
Then I learned to just be a little careful.
Cheap and you can get it anywhere
Cleans easily with Simple Green.
Too easy to get too much on a chain and have it fling friggin everywhere... I white lithium grease on bearings and axles and other things rotate. My DR650 gobbles that stuff up.
Jul 19th 2016, 03:12 PM   #14
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  Feb 2016
  Skagit Valley

  2007 Ducati Multistrada
THIS GUY DOES WITH NO PROBLEM, HE WENT THE WHOLE TRIP DOING THIS.

http://advrider.com/index.php?thread...-2016.1143158/


While waiting for the washer, I used my Trail Stand to jack up the rear wheel. I cleaned and lubed Tess's chain. There appears to be NO wear after almost 8000 miles. I use DuPont Teflon lube. Goes on wet then dries with a light film. Best I've found in 45 years. Plus you can get it at Walmart for around $10 a can. I keep the clean chain using wet wipes. Simple and easy to just give the chain a quick wipe down and light spray at the end of each day.

A few approximate stats:

Total mileage for the trip was around 16,000 miles
Riding miles were over 13,000
still using the brake pads we left with
two set of tires
5 oil changes (I think)
haven't a clue how much gas Tess used....best I can tell mileage was around 68 mpg average...high of 79.5 mpg
rode about 1,300 miles of gravel and dirt
only got bit three times by mozzies (killed all three of the bastards)
never used any bug spray at any time
used my bug net only once near Deadhorse at a construction stop...kept it on as I rode behind the pilot car in case we stopped again
ate 17 blueberry muffins at the Prudhoe Bay Hotel (probably an under-estimate)
if you walk bare footed in the Prudhoe Bay Hotel the staff gets pissed off
there are over 400 bars of soap in the Prudhoe Bay Hotel showers for you to use...find one that is white and not stained
used 4 terabytes of data at the motel watching cartoons (bullwinkle and rocky)
camped about 10 times
stayed with ADV friends about 30 %
motels (cheap and not so cheap) the other times
too many Tim Horton donuts and Maccas sausage and biscuits to count
used my leatherman one time to pull the spike out of my rear tire and once to trim the hair that grows out of my right ear
lost my favorite comb (for my beard) somewhere in Wyoming
the flag girls on the Dalton are HOT :thumb and they make more money than you do
I need a haircut...bad

Edited by Longrides on Jul 19th 2016 at 03:50 PM
Jul 19th 2016, 03:36 PM   #15
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2013 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 Harlequin
may i ask this: when you guys same some product or other "works"...what is your meaning of that? I mean - how do you define "works"? I just use the blue can of whatever...PJ1? from the shop. My chains last a long time, and I only seem to have to change them when I want to do sprocket swaps or something. Granted, I am not a maniac or a long distance rider, really.

so, what determines, for you, a product that "works"?

thanks
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