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Parilla125 Feb 24th 2019 01:26 PM

Going Modern
 
Having owned and worked on motorcycles and cars for over 50 years I started when points, carbs and valve adjustments were needed, and fairly often. Not to mention drum brakes and other 'old' items. Particularly if you raced or pushed them. I realized the other day that out of the 5 bikes I own now only one has a carb and drum brakes on the front. If they made the same model (Yamaha TW200) with FI I would seriously think about selling mine and getting the updated one. They came out with disk on the front the year after I bought mine... :furious:
I had a 427 (swap) El Camino that I raced some that was tuned very well. I swapped to a 'built up' FI system and it 'felt' slower but I was surprised to find the 1/4 mile times were virtually identical but the all around MPG nearly doubled! That was an eye opener! I had owned a few European cars (Mercedes, Volvo) that had FI but had never had a carb system for a direct comparison until the El Camino.
Anyone else prefer the more 'modern' tech in motorcycles? :cool:

307T Feb 24th 2019 02:20 PM

Yeah, disc brakes are great. And, as a former owner of a couple of different Brit bikes from the 60's, it is nice to see that the new versions don't remind me of the Exxon Valdez. I also like electric start, especially at my age. In deference to older bikes though, I still like spoked wheels and a frame where the engine is not hidden behind lots of fiberglass, that translates to naked bikes. And I can live with carbs but I prefer injection.

chadams66 Feb 24th 2019 03:32 PM

yes

ZXtasy Feb 24th 2019 03:42 PM

I do enjoy the modern stuff, but like to stay realistic and remind myself of how it used to be. 2 of my 4 current bikes are TW-200's. The wife's 2012 has the front disc but is only marginally better than my 99's drum. They are both weak compared to real brakes. I do like the fact that my 99 has a kick starter AND electric. I built a custom 83 850 Yamaha and it too had both, surprisingly or not it started better with the kick than the button.

My '05 ZX-10 is also considered low tech compared to the current offerings, but I really enjoy the raw feel of no electronic interventions. I upgraded to R1 mono block calipers up front and it goes and stops but still keeps me on my toes. The '13 C-14 has ABS/linked brakes and nicely refined FI with ECU flash...almost like not riding but going along for a sweet ride.

So I get a bit of several flavors in my stable, like it all!

unicykle Feb 24th 2019 08:21 PM

I am in no way one of those guys that always has to have the latest and greatest but every time I re bought one of the bikes ive had from the past it wasn’t nearly as good as I remembered and it paled in comparison to the newer bikes, at this point my newest bike is 12 years old and I’m hoping that all these new fan dangled electronic rider aids are as big a leap forward as fuel injection was.

bcj Feb 25th 2019 06:38 AM

Had a very used Alfa back in the 80's. Had to file the points and re-set them every other week or it wouldn't run.
There was an aftermarket electronic points package available, but at $500 it was a significant fraction of what the whole car was worth.
Never got around to that. It did have Spica FI though. Never had to touch that over 7 years.

I'm all for the modern stuff

McRider Feb 25th 2019 08:18 AM

Back when I started riding, a Triumph Bonneville was one of the fastest, best handling motorcycles available, but I couldn't afford one. A couple of years ago I completely restored a 1968 Bonneville and upgraded with electronic ignition and charging but left the rest stock except for stainless steel spokes. I rode it probably about 200 miles and decided to sell it because I just didn't like it or feel safe on it.

It started easy enough, but would sometimes die at a stop and at other times idle too fast. Of course it vibrated and didn't stop too well, but the final nail was that it was surprisingly uncomfortable. And this fastest motorcycle of its day had the exact same horsepower as my current ride, a mild powered Honda CBR500R.

Brassneck Feb 25th 2019 10:37 AM

I enjoy both old-school tech and modern tech, but they serve different purposes for me.

I like the modern for easy maintenance and reliability...get on and go! I like the old bikes (and cars) to work on, fix and enjoy for nostalgia and a sense of workman's pride. Sometimes working on the old machines is just as fun, if not more fun, than riding them...but that is perhaps because I have the luxury of not having to rely on them for anything more than a leisurely putt around town (or exclusively to race them).

Back in college, when I only had one bike and it was my daily driver ('81 Yamaha Maxim 550) I hated all the work needed to keep it running right--no thanks, I'll take modern for anything that needs some sort of regularity/daily driving.


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