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equinity Jul 21st 2016 08:24 AM

Yamaha R3 Recall
 
FYI.

Yamaha R3 Recall for Oil Pump Defect | Motorcyclist

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wooden Jul 21st 2016 12:46 PM

I notice links to several other recalls on the R3 on the right side of that page... Sounds like a lot of corners were cut to make that bike.

equinity Jul 21st 2016 04:42 PM

Maybe a couple.

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Red Label Moto Jul 21st 2016 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wooden (Post 21757)
I notice links to several other recalls on the R3 on the right side of that page... Sounds like a lot of corners were cut to make that bike.

Take a stroll around any of the big 4 showrooms lately. Or Ducati, KTM or BMW.

If you're at a big 4 shop, compare all the bikes that have a vin starting with "J" to a bike with a vin starting with any other letter. If at Ducati, start with "Z" and compare to others. If at KTM.... start with "V". At BMW look for "W".

The bikes with a vin starting with a letter other than J, Z, V or W could certainly be said to have had some corners cut.

R3 vin does not start with a J, Z, V or W btw lol.

equinity Jul 21st 2016 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Label Moto (Post 21774)
Take a stroll around any of the big 4 showrooms lately. Or Ducati, KTM or BMW.

If you're at a big 4 shop, compare all the bikes that have a vin starting with "J" to a bike with a vin starting with any other letter. If at Ducati, start with "Z" and compare to others. If at KTM.... start with "V". At BMW look for "W".

The bikes with a vin starting with a letter other than J, Z, V or W could certainly be said to have had some corners cut.

R3 vin does not start with a J, Z, V or W btw lol.

I'm curious about why you say that?

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equinity Jul 21st 2016 05:34 PM

Aren't the letters country codes?

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Ryanthegreat1 Jul 21st 2016 05:43 PM

I know my Indian built KTM is lacking for sure. No recalls yet.

The Thailand built Honda in the garage is better than the KTM but I hear that is going to have the crankshaft recalled for a big end bearing that fractures.

Parilla125 Jul 21st 2016 10:49 PM

The first R3 I went to purchase turned out to be one of the 16 with a bad triple clamp when they pulled it out of the crate.
The one I ended up getting goes in Saturday to get the oil pump AND the clutch replaced...
Sure is a fun little bike though!

ShootPDX Jul 22nd 2016 02:22 AM

Yes...clutch also....

Report Receipt Date: JUN 24, 2016
NHTSA Campaign Number: 16V460000
Component(s): POWER TRAIN
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Manufacturer: Yamaha Motor Corporation, USA
SUMMARY:
Yamaha Motor Corporation (Yamaha) is recalling certain model year 2015-2016 YZF-R3 F/G motorcycles manufactured January 1, 2015, to April 15, 2016. The clutch pressure plate bearing may break due to an insufficient load rating, causing the clutch to not disengage and preventing the transmission from shifting properly.
CONSEQUENCE:
If the clutch cannot be disengaged, the rider may not be easily able to stop the motorcycle, increasing the risk of a crash.
REMEDY:
Yamaha has notified owners, and dealers will replace the clutch pressure plate bearing, free of charge. The recall began July 11, 2016. Owners may contact Yamaha customer service at 1-800-962-7926. Yamaha's number for this recall is 990105.
NOTES:
Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to Home | Safercar -- National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).

Red Label Moto Jul 22nd 2016 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by equinity (Post 21782)
I'm curious about why you say that?

Aren't the letters country codes?

Yah. The 1st digit in the vin symbolizes the country of origin. More and more of the big 4 machines are no longer produced in Japan. Some Ducatis are not Italian. A few KTM's aren't born in Austria... BMW's coming from not Germany. Etc.

These manufacturers have figured it out. If it costs less to make a product, you can make a lot more dough and not raise the price. It really is that simple. After an inititial investment to make a factory in China, Taiwan, Indonesia (home of the R3), Thailand, Korea or the like... the bikes are massively more profitable compared to the ones that emanate from more traditional sources.

Not only do they make more initially... the cynic in me says they make that profit again sooner than before simply because these new machines will wear out exponentially faster. To think that the bean counters who know what they are doing at these corporations don't think about such scenarios would be foolish.

Take a Honda CT "trail" 70 from 40 years ago. Many of them have been abused by psychotic 9 year olds for years. In some cases 3 or 4 or more generations of evil kids have had their crack at the same machine. In many cases those same bikes are still around and somehow still work. Try that with a Grom and see what happens. There would be nothing left.

It took a while but the bike industry is finally adopting the "for profit" mantra of the auto world. Many of these new machines made in the "new" factories are disposable, throwaway bikes.

For more on this story try hanging out at bars that dealer technicians frequent. You will learn.

mgfchapin Jul 22nd 2016 08:52 AM

^ This man speaks the truth. No comparison in quality between the R3 in my garage and the 23 year old NSR. Both "learner bikes" but that J makes a huge difference.

No problems with the R3 though, I was actually impressed with the build quality considering it only costs $5k new.

Parilla125 Jul 22nd 2016 03:43 PM

Many of these new machines made in the "new" factories are disposable, throwaway bikes.

I heard this same argument about Japanese cars and motorcycles when they came over, yet they are being rebuilt and hotrodded just the same as the 50's and 60's cars and motorcycles I grew up rebuilding and hot rodding.
A number of the motorcycles built in the 30's 40's and 50's were lucky to get 35K before NEEDING a rebuild where the new bikes can go 70-100K without all the tune ups and maintenance DEMANDED by the older bikes. I don't buy the 'throw away' argument. It may be more expensive to rebuild one so it is not worth it to do it, but there are people all over (including this site) that are doing all kinds of stuff their bikes.
Off the soap box now... :furious::spin::p:cool:

ShootPDX Jul 22nd 2016 04:53 PM

You know in some cultures component failure is more accepted. That sounds crazy only because in the US, Japan or Germany it is really NOT. If YIMM builds a bike in Indonesia called the R25 and components fail...like driveline shit...clutch...or shit that can lock up the rear...oil pump...let's be honest...Indonesian people don't typically sue them into oblivion.

When you brand the same bike R3 and sell it in the US...it's a different dynamic. When some teenager takes a nosedive on his first ride...and it's mechanical...all hell breaks loose...

Part of the issue is it is very difficult to sell the exact same box into different cultures...and...thanks to the web...all the re-branding in the world fools pretty much no one...

SmokeyMcNug Jul 23rd 2016 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ShootPDX (Post 21845)
...and...thanks to the web...all the re-branding in the world fools pretty much no one...

not really rebranding but i thought i would share this.

It?s a knock-off! China?s copycat cars at the 2015 Shanghai motor show by CAR Magazine

holypiston Jul 24th 2016 09:59 AM

China Zong-Shen? Maybe China will be the new Honda? <---prediction. I read an article about them being pretty decent bikes. They rode a bunch of them across america and the motor was pretty much bullet-proof. Replacement parts are cheap. Owners seem to like them.

As long as they don't build the bikes according to what corporate america wants. That will *uck everything up.


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