Instagram     

Go Back   PNW Moto > Washington > Seattle > Kitsap

Kitsap Rides, meetups, regional discussions | Bremerton, Poulsbo, Bainbridge Island, Port Orchard, Silverdale

Like Tree10Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Aug 7th 2016, 05:16 PM   #1
 Scribbles's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  NW

Stubborn traffic lights

Where are the worst traffic lights in Kitsap County? The lights that just won't change for a motorcycle. I want to do some late night experiments with neodymium magnets to see how many it takes to activate the sensors.

Central/North Kitsap preferred, but I'll take any info you've got.

Also, has anyone had success placing these magnets on the bike or kickstand?

Thanks!

Edited by Scribbles on Aug 7th 2016 at 05:30 PM
Aug 7th 2016, 05:20 PM   #2
 kromlec's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  US

I only have problems with some left turn red lights, but I just turn on red since we are allowed to now

2012 R1
HalcyonSon likes this.
Aug 7th 2016, 05:23 PM   #3
 Scribbles's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  NW

And I'm sure that you wait for 2 full cycles to complete before you go through.. right? (or is it 3?)

I would like something that works when there is moderate traffic, and I can't just blow the light. Anything that gets me through traffic lights faster is worth having on the bike.

Edited by Scribbles on Aug 7th 2016 at 05:30 PM
Aug 7th 2016, 05:58 PM   #4
 DocB's Avatar
 
  Feb 2016
  Poulsbo, WA

  Aprilia RSV Mille, CB77, CB750K, CB750F
From 305 west left onto Bond Rd. south is a bad one for me. Hitting the starter doesn't seem to trip it, so I usually take another route. I have had occasional issues at 305 and Hostmark and 305 at Viking Way too. I'm guessing a Neo magnet on a frame has a lot lower strength field at the asphalt level than a starter motor turning, unless it's a big freakin' magnet.

Come to think of it I have a bunch of N52 stick magnets. Maybe I'll give them a try too.
Aug 7th 2016, 06:10 PM   #5
 Scribbles's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  NW

Thanks for the info..
I'm going to play with magnets on the frame as well as on the kickstand. Lowering the kickstand will get the magnets closer to the wire coil. (I got rid of the kickstand safety switch long ago..so I can put the kickstand down in 1st gear)

Edited by Scribbles on Aug 7th 2016 at 06:14 PM
Aug 7th 2016, 06:23 PM   #6
 
  Jan 2016
  Kennewick

  Depends on my mood.
RCW 46.61.184

Don't need no steenking magnets!
Texasl and ZXtasy like this.
Aug 7th 2016, 06:32 PM   #7
 Scribbles's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  NW

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Guy
RCW 46.61.184

Notwithstanding any provision of law to the contrary, the operator of a bicycle, moped, or street legal motorcycle approaching an intersection, including a left turn intersection, that is controlled by a triggered traffic control signal using a vehicle detection device that is inoperative due to the size or composition of the bicycle, moped, or street legal motorcycle shall come to a full and complete stop at the intersection. If the traffic control signal, including the left turn signal, as appropriate, fails to operate after one cycle of the traffic signal, the operator may, after exercising due care, proceed directly through the intersection or proceed to turn left, as appropriate. It is not a defense to a violation of RCW 46.61.050 (see below) that the operator of a bicycle, moped, or motorcycle proceeded under the belief that a traffic control signal used a vehicle detection device or was inoperative due to the size or composition of the bicycle, moped, or motorcycle when the signal did not use a vehicle detection device or that any such device was not in fact inoperative due to the size or composition of the bicycle, moped, or motorcycle. For purposes of this section, "bicycle" includes a bicycle, as defined in RCW 46.04.071, and
So after one full cycle, you can blow the light.
What if you are the only vehicle around and it doesnt cycle? To obey the law, you'd have to wait forever. And if a cop tickets you for running a red light, good luck proving to the judge that it had completed a complete cycle first.
Quote:
It is not a defense...
It's difficult to even make that argument.. you can't claim that you ran a red light because it wasn't working... unless you have the money to prove it wasn't working.(I'm no lawyer, but 5th grade english leads me to that conclusion.... Caslaw?... or Bueller?)

IMHO, this law is a completely useless waste of our legislators time.It is now ok to run a red light, if the police aren't watching.... just like before the law was passed.. (your tax dollars at work..)

I just want to see what will activate the sensor fastest. If you don't want to help, I can keep the results to myself..


Quote:
RCW 46.61.050
Obedience to and required traffic control devices.
(1) The driver of any vehicle, every bicyclist, and every pedestrian shall obey the instructions of any official traffic control device applicable thereto placed in accordance with the provisions of this chapter, unless otherwise directed by a traffic or police officer, subject to the exception granted the driver of an authorized emergency vehicle in this chapter.
(2) No provision of this chapter for which official traffic control devices are required shall be enforced against an alleged violator if at the time and place of the alleged violation an official device is not in proper position and sufficiently legible or visible to be seen by an ordinarily observant person. Whenever a particular section does not state that official traffic control devices are required, such section shall be effective even though no devices are erected or in place.
(3) Whenever official traffic control devices are placed in position approximately conforming to the requirements of this chapter, such devices shall be presumed to have been so placed by the official act or direction of lawful authority, unless the contrary shall be established by competent evidence.
(4) Any official traffic control device placed pursuant to the provisions of this chapter and purporting to conform to the lawful requirements pertaining to such devices shall be presumed to comply with the requirements of this chapter, unless the contrary shall be established by competent evidence.

Edited by Scribbles on Aug 7th 2016 at 07:01 PM
Aug 7th 2016, 06:58 PM   #8
 ZXtasy's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Moses Lake, WA

  2013 Kawasaki Concours C-14, 2005 ZX-10R Kawasaki (Nekkid), '99 Yamaha TW-200
I have been "blowing red lights" for 40 years, never one stop, ticket, or dirty look, have even done it with officers at the opposing lights...most understand...
Aug 7th 2016, 07:00 PM   #9
 ZXtasy's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Moses Lake, WA

  2013 Kawasaki Concours C-14, 2005 ZX-10R Kawasaki (Nekkid), '99 Yamaha TW-200
If a traffic light wont sense you, it is non functioning, any state says a non functioning traffic light is to be treated as a 4 way stop. Swear to god they do, state law!
HalcyonSon likes this.
Aug 7th 2016, 07:04 PM   #10
 
  Jan 2016
  Kennewick

  Depends on my mood.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZXtasy
I have been "blowing red lights" for 40 years, never one stop, ticket, or dirty look, have even done it with officers at the opposing lights...most understand...
Yup. Me too. No magnets, no second looks from cops (Had one wave me through through a light that would not turn and he was stuck behind me). Just keep it safe, keep it reasonable.
Aug 7th 2016, 07:11 PM   #11
 Scribbles's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  NW

Thats all fine and good, but the topic is...

Improvements to a motorcycle that actually help switch traffic signals to green...

Hopefully a moderator will step in to censor the riff raff.. This is the Kitsap County Forum.. not E WA..



<BaldGuy and ZX both live in Eastern Wa and have no idea what we deal with on the wetside... >

Quote:
Where are the worst traffic lights in Kitsap County?
Do you guys even know where Kitsap County is?? Hint.. It's not next door to Kittitas County...

Edited by Scribbles on Aug 7th 2016 at 07:26 PM
Aug 7th 2016, 07:32 PM   #12
 Scribbles's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  NW

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZXtasy
If a traffic light wont sense you, it is non functioning, any state says a non functioning traffic light is to be treated as a 4 way stop. Swear to god they do, state law!
I realize that the RCW I posted above might require a 10th grade reading level. Since that is clearly above your intellect, you might want to avoid posting in this thread.
Aug 7th 2016, 08:01 PM   #13
 MMcN49's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Small Island Surrounded by Puget Sound

  07 Buell XB12STT, (Two) 12 Suzuki DR650 SE 72BMWR75/5 KIA @ 243K
Quote:
Originally Posted by DocB
From 305 west left onto Bond Rd. south is a bad one for me.
+1 on this light. It seems to never trip. Had magnets on my daily commuter into Seattle. They didnít seem to help much if at all.
Aug 7th 2016, 08:08 PM   #14
 Scribbles's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  NW

Thanks for the input MM,

Can we keep a thread on topic for even an hour? (guess not..)
Aug 7th 2016, 08:21 PM   #15
 MMcN49's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Small Island Surrounded by Puget Sound

  07 Buell XB12STT, (Two) 12 Suzuki DR650 SE 72BMWR75/5 KIA @ 243K
Two More in Poulsbo:

Heading East or South on Finn Hill Road. I’ve had problems with the left turn light onto Olhava Way towards WalMart and further down, the left turn light onto Viking Way.
Reply

  PNW Moto > Washington > Seattle > Kitsap

Tags
lights, stubborn, traffic



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
A new (updated) traffic website for the Spokane peeps JohnnyM Spokane 4 Feb 8th 2017 12:22 PM
Riders, Watch your '6' at traffic stops. Skiffman Motorcycles 21 May 7th 2016 12:04 PM




Copyright © 2017 PNW Moto. All rights reserved.