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Mar 19th 2019, 12:23 PM   #1
 VeritasImageryNW's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
Rip

Hope it was no one we know. If it was, I am sorry for the loss. Be safe out there friends, no one really sees us.

https://www.injurytriallawyer.com/bl...rt-orchard.cfm

My wife called me this morning after going through the scene. Shook her up pretty good.
Mar 19th 2019, 05:28 PM   #2
 307T's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Washington County

  H-D
This is disturbing in two ways. First, obviously, an all too common driver error resulted in the death of someone's son, or father, or husband, or brother. I sympathize with those who have experienced this loss. There are those who will say that you always have to be anticipating and prepared. You do, but you cannot always avoid a crash. Studies have shown that it is more difficult to see an object that is traveling on your same axis as opposed to one traveling laterally. Add to that, in a relaxed state, a motorist sees objects that are similar in size (or larger) and may overlook something smaller...like a bike, or a pedestrian.

Second, while I fully understand the need and benefit of legal representation, tacking a commercial statement as the second half of a crash summary seems to me to be insensitive at the least if not blatantly boorish.
Mar 19th 2019, 07:30 PM   #3
 TREX600's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Custer, WA

  Suzuki 09 GSXR 1000 Suzuki 09 DRZ 400SM 1970 Yamaha 250 DT1 Enduro
So sad when a fellow rider in longer with us
RIP fellow rider
Mar 19th 2019, 08:55 PM   #4
 
  Jan 2016
  Gig Harbor

  BMW F650GS / BMW R12R
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Originally Posted by 307T
Second, while I fully understand the need and benefit of legal representation, tacking a commercial statement as the second half of a crash summary seems to me to be insensitive at the least if not blatantly boorish.
+1 on dislike of the lawyer's marketing statement.
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Mar 20th 2019, 04:59 AM   #5
 
  Jan 2016
  Lynnwood WA

  2007 Yamaha FZ6, 2008 Aprilia Tuono & 2009 Yamaha WR250R
I didn't even see the advert at the bottom until 307T mentioned it, so I went back & scrolled down to it. Callous doesn't even begin to describe it.
Mar 20th 2019, 08:30 AM   #6
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  Feb 2016
  Bellingham

  Suzuki
Just yesterday I watched a V-Strom enter an intersection, not 1 but 2 cars turned left in front of him. 2 later aged female drivers, he was almost balancing at a standstill 1/3 into the intersection, waving at the clueless 2nd driver.

I was the third car waiting to turn left, but clearly saw him. This intersection is busy and does have a left hand turn signal, but this instance the light was just green with no arrow.
Mar 20th 2019, 08:48 AM   #7
 
  Jan 2016
  Oregon

  2018 Kaw Ninja H2 SX SE
"The Chevrolet Silverado pickup, driven by a 37-year-old Belfair man, made a left-hand turn in front of the motorcycle, failing to yield the right of way. The two vehicles collided."

The MOST common MC collision.

Cover your brake, have an exit path, assume the driver will try to turn in front of you!

Another situation: Two lanes oncoming, traffic stopped, Driver in oncoming left lane waves you by to turn, but you can't see oncoming car to the right of him...
Mar 20th 2019, 09:34 AM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
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Originally Posted by 307T
Second, while I fully understand the need and benefit of legal representation, tacking a commercial statement as the second half of a crash summary seems to me to be insensitive at the least if not blatantly boorish.
Completely agree. What is strange is that this was the only thing that showed up when I Googled the accident after my wife called me.
Mar 20th 2019, 02:56 PM   #9
 unicykle's Avatar
 
  Sep 2017
  milwaukie oregon

  gsxr600 gsxr750 gsxr1000 i like gsxrs
I notice they said he had a helmet on... but what style, i seel alot of to generalize “cruizer riders” wearing helmets that realy shouldnt be described as helmets but more brain buckets that are going to do little to save you unless you manage to land only on the top of your head.
Mar 21st 2019, 07:45 AM   #10
 VeritasImageryNW's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
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I notice they said he had a helmet on... but what style, i seel alot of to generalize “cruizer riders” wearing helmets that realy shouldnt be described as helmets but more brain buckets that are going to do little to save you unless you manage to land only on the top of your head.
Wasn't a cruiser, more sport-tourer. Lots of plastic debris all over. Wife said it was a full face as that was still at the scene when she went by. Unfortunately what helmet you're wearing doesn't mean much when you hit, basically, a wall at 55-60 mph.
Mar 21st 2019, 09:22 AM   #11
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  Jan 2016
  SeaTac

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Another situation: Two lanes oncoming, traffic stopped, Driver in oncoming left lane waves you by to turn, but you can't see oncoming car to the right of him...
Was in a car and had this happen when I was High School. Driver convinced me it was my fault at the site but wanted to avoid insurance and just have me pay for the repairs. Did not bode well for him when my older (and VERY big) brother and father got involved...
Mar 22nd 2019, 06:54 AM   #12
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  Jan 2016
  Northeast Olalla

  07 Guzzi
Quote:
Originally Posted by 307T
This is disturbing in two ways. First, obviously, an all too common driver error resulted in the death of someone's son, or father, or husband, or brother. I sympathize with those who have experienced this loss. There are those who will say that you always have to be anticipating and prepared. You do, but you cannot always avoid a crash. Studies have shown that it is more difficult to see an object that is traveling on your same axis as opposed to one traveling laterally. Add to that, in a relaxed state, a motorist sees objects that are similar in size (or larger) and may overlook something smaller...like a bike, or a pedestrian.
At that location, and that hour, the rider had the opportunity to be totally obscured by the rising sun. Add in other factors, such as the fact that there is a park and ride at that corner, which might mean that the driver was rushing to get to a carpool, and if the rider had come straight down from Hadlock he might have been dulled by the cold (I had 38 degrees on Juigi' dash when I came through Gorst about that same time), so reaction/response time might have been affected.

I am a strong proponent of the practice of riders searching (intelligently) for the things out there that will help them kill themselves and formulating a plan to make that not happen, but even I have to admit that sometimes there is the possibility of the "Oh Farking Poodle Poop" event.

I would like to see the crash report on this one, if for no other reason than to use the information when mentoring my students.


BTW: No of the above in any way exonerates the driver of the pickup.
Mar 22nd 2019, 10:51 AM   #13
 Pavement Tested's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Seabeck

  '08 GSX1300R, '06 GSX-R 750, '17 KTM 690 Duke
To be fair, the article was posted on a blog for an injury trial lawyer.

While I'm no fan of ambulance chasing POS lawyers, I can't fault them for putting shady, classless shit on their own page.
Mar 22nd 2019, 03:30 PM   #14
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  Jan 2016
  Kirkland

  2009 V-Star 1100 Custom
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Originally Posted by Pavement Tested
To be fair, the article was posted on a blog for an injury trial lawyer.

While I'm no fan of ambulance chasing POS lawyers, I can't fault them for putting shady, classless shit on their own page.
Daly, that's pretty common for that type of lawyer.
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