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Jun 21st 2018, 04:44 AM   #1
 Candiya's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Bremerton

  BMW F800R, Honda CBR250R
New track in south Kitsap?

Looks like there's a study being funded about a possible track in south Kitsap. Here's the story and track map:

https://www.kitsapsun.com/story/news...c-90b11c341ce0

Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere.
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Jun 21st 2018, 05:33 AM   #2
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  Jan 2016
  Northeast Olalla

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It's an interesting thought, but just as with the NASCAR track proposal, there is a whole lot of fluff, rainbows, and unicorns in the proposal. The promoters are pumping up the huge "economic boon" to the area in a drive to get public dollars for a private venture. Not to be a wet blanket, but being a very serious fiscal conservative, someone needs to look at the economic impact of the Ridge on Shelton before tax dollars go into a small segment private venture that will be indirect competition with a close by venue.
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Jun 21st 2018, 05:34 AM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
Yeah, Brian has been trying to get this going for several years. His plan is to develop a higher end facility. Something with more of a Barber type feel.

Having had several conversations with members of this group when they first introduced the plan, they are looking at doing something that The Ridge has seemed to shy away from, and that is they are really focusing on bringing in National Class races. They want to see things like MotoAmerica, Trans Am, IMSA, and the like come to this venue. Whereas The Ridge has primarily focused on club racing and track days.

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Jun 22nd 2018, 01:32 PM   #4
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  Apr 2017
  Renton, Wa

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Originally Posted by VeritasImageryNW
Yeah, Brian has been trying to get this going for several years. His plan is to develop a higher end facility. Something with more of a Barber type feel.

Having had several conversations with members of this group when they first introduced the plan, they are looking at doing something that The Ridge has seemed to shy away from, and that is they are really focusing on bringing in National Class races. They want to see things like MotoAmerica, Trans Am, IMSA, and the like come to this venue. Whereas The Ridge has primarily focused on club racing and track days.

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I hope they get this going....Having 3 tracks here in Wa, PIR, Ridge and this one would be nice
Jun 22nd 2018, 03:55 PM   #5
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  Feb 2016
  Poulsbo, WA

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Traffic on highway 3 should be no problemo on race day. A superbike race only gets what, 60,000 attendees?
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Jun 22nd 2018, 04:47 PM   #6
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Traffic on highway 3 should be no problemo on race day. A superbike race only gets what, 60,000 attendees?
Not any worse than trying to get through Puyallup during the fair, and that lasts nearly an entire month.

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Jun 22nd 2018, 06:19 PM   #7
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

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Nope. Nope. Nope.

Too many cars and people here already.

All the money leaves the area, and we get stuck with all the bullshit that goes along with the whole deal.

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Jun 23rd 2018, 10:26 AM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

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I just don't get how motorcyclists wouldn't be thrilled to have more bike racing venues in the area.

But then again I don't understand why the parking lots at WMRRA races aren't packed with motorcycles.

How are we going to get the general public excited about motorcycle racing if we can't even get motorcycle riders excited about it? A perfect example of why American riders are no longer a force in international racing.

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Jun 23rd 2018, 12:57 PM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Small Island Surrounded by Puget Sound

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Private for profit venues should be financed with private, not public tax dollars. People not inclined to attend a motorcycle races, (which is probably the majority of the population) should not be forced through taxation to help pay for a race facility.
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Jun 23rd 2018, 02:23 PM   #10
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  Bremerton

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Private for profit venues should be financed with private, not public tax dollars. People not inclined to attend a motorcycle races, (which is probably the majority of the population) should not be forced through taxation to help pay for a race facility.
This. ^^^ Hell, I'm at the track right now and I don't want one in Kitsap. I used to get jazzed about it when I was younger and didn't care about taxes and shut. Now I can't even stand paying sales tax. I'd probably use the facility if it were built but I don't want to pay for it when I'm not there. That's on top of the traffic issue. There's enough shit spilling over from the east side as it is.
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Jun 23rd 2018, 04:27 PM   #11
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
I rode up to Race Street in Port Angeles today.

I did not ride to Hurricane Ridge.

Rather, I rode down 4 miles of the 5-mile road to the gate.

I did not go the last mile because it was filled with cars, stop-and-creeping along, at the rate of however-long-it-takes-to-pay per car.

It looked like an hour wait.

I turned around and came home.

But I love my bike, btw.

Like - a lot.

I just have to remember to ride on Tuesdays.

When it's raining.

And dark.

Or something. ;^)

Jun 25th 2018, 04:58 PM   #12
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

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So how many actually read the article? This is money that is already going to be raised through taxes. Meaning you're already paying for it. The county is simply asking for proposals as to where to spend it, so why not support something we motorcycle enthusiasts might actually benefit from?

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Jun 25th 2018, 07:18 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by VeritasImageryNW
So how many actually read the article? This is money that is already going to be raised through taxes. Meaning you're already paying for it. The county is simply asking for proposals as to where to spend it, so why not support something we motorcycle enthusiasts might actually benefit from?

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I'd rather the already paid for taxes were used for shit that matters like actually paving roads properly (not the fucked up, poor excuse for chip sealing they do) and fixing the problematic traffic issues we have now like the 3/303 merger they spent so much on with no real result, not some pipe dream of a world class track that will be a bigger burden for years to come.

Prime example: the Narrows bridge. The tolls were supposed to go away once it was paid for which it was years ago. That was all smoke and mirrors. Instead, the toll keeps going up and up and I see no improvements as a result of the money collected.
Jun 25th 2018, 07:29 PM   #14
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  Allyn, WA

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Again, actually reading the article would help. These are funds to be used by the county public facilities district. They cannot be used on road maintenance, public works, homelessness, etc. These are funds to be used for things like the fairgrounds, skate parks, batting cages and such. They are looking at projects that will benefit the general public, recreationally, that they can put that money towards.

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Jun 25th 2018, 08:54 PM   #15
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  Feb 2016
  Gig Harbor

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Prime example: the Narrows bridge. The tolls were supposed to go away once it was paid for which it was years ago. That was all smoke and mirrors. Instead, the toll keeps going up and up and I see no improvements as a result of the money collected.
You don't see that second bridge standing right next to the first one?*

You don't remember what the traffic backups were like with one bridge, and how backups are no longer caused by the one bridge chokepoint?

Regarding whether it was supposed to be paid for years ago, per the Washington DOT website:

"Tolling will continue as long as the bonds which financed the new bridge are being paid off, which is planned to end in 2032."

So, um, no, they weren't supposed to go away years ago, they're scheduled to end, as planned, in 2032.

Whether they will go away or not is perhaps subject to speculation but, regardless, we have a ways to go yet.


* Actually the third bridge is standing next to the second one, because the first one didn't work out real well.
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