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Jul 29th 2018, 11:52 AM   #1
 victor's Avatar
 
  Aug 2016
  battleground, wa

  i have an 06 vxt1300 and an 01 r1 champions edition
In need of help ...

I'm riding a 2006 vtx1300r from Seattle area to phoenix arizona ... got in between eugene and bend and the clutch gave up.

I pushed the bike almost 14 miles until I was able to flag someone down and get them to send a tow truck (no cell service here). Tow truck charged $200 for about a 9 mile tow. Then got a hotel room... no phone in room, poor wifi ...

Here's my problem... no where in this little town (oakridge) to get parts and no tools to install parts if I had them.

Any fellow riders in the area or close that may be able to bring some parts/tools for a clutch change? If I remeber, it's pretty easy, just a little time consuming. I have cash for parts and can trow some your way ... the tow bill kinda hurt ...

If someone could even tow me to bend for parts tools, that would be a help too. I'm not picky... just not wanting to push my bike again or be stuck here forever more.

I'd post cell number in this type of emergency, but cell does not work here. Hotel does not have phone in room, so I guess pm is best way.

Thanks in advance.
Jul 29th 2018, 01:59 PM   #2
 Pavement Tested's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Bremerton

  '12 Concours14, '08 GSX1300R, '06 GSX-R 750
Sign up for the AMA. It's about $45/year and they have a perc of free roadside assistance for ALL of your vehicles. Then call a tow truck to take your bike to a larger town with a honda shop that can help.

That the best I got.
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Jul 29th 2018, 02:22 PM   #3
 victor's Avatar
 
  Aug 2016
  battleground, wa

  i have an 06 vxt1300 and an 01 r1 champions edition
Thanks. I'll try that ... hope I can get a call out over wifi... hasn't worked so far... maybe they have sign up over internet.

Thanks for info.
Jul 29th 2018, 03:42 PM   #4
 Pavement Tested's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Bremerton

  '12 Concours14, '08 GSX1300R, '06 GSX-R 750
Quote:
Originally Posted by victor
Thanks. I'll try that ... hope I can get a call out over wifi... hasn't worked so far... maybe they have sign up over internet.

Thanks for info.
You can sign up on line. Once signed up, you should get your member # which is what you need for the tow company to bill the AMA.
Jul 29th 2018, 04:03 PM   #5
 Enigma T's Avatar
 
  Aug 2016
  PDX OR USA

  '07 Shadow 600 (Gremlin) & '88 Hawk GT (Rekka)
Quote:
Originally Posted by victor
I'm riding a 2006 vtx1300r from Seattle area to phoenix arizona ... got in between eugene and bend and the clutch gave up.

I pushed the bike almost 14 miles until I was able to flag someone down and get them to send a tow truck (no cell service here). Tow truck charged $200 for about a 9 mile tow. Then got a hotel room... no phone in room, poor wifi ...

Here's my problem... no where in this little town (oakridge) to get parts and no tools to install parts if I had them.

Any fellow riders in the area or close that may be able to bring some parts/tools for a clutch change? If I remeber, it's pretty easy, just a little time consuming. I have cash for parts and can trow some your way ... the tow bill kinda hurt ...

If someone could even tow me to bend for parts tools, that would be a help too. I'm not picky... just not wanting to push my bike again or be stuck here forever more.

I'd post cell number in this type of emergency, but cell does not work here. Hotel does not have phone in room, so I guess pm is best way.

Thanks in advance.
Dunno know whether this'd be useful here or not, but there' also a group NABR (North American Bike(r?) Rescue) in FB-land of friendly and hopefully helpful folks...
Jul 29th 2018, 04:05 PM   #6
 Enigma T's Avatar
 
  Aug 2016
  PDX OR USA

  '07 Shadow 600 (Gremlin) & '88 Hawk GT (Rekka)
Quote:
Originally Posted by victor
Thanks. I'll try that ... hope I can get a call out over wifi... hasn't worked so far... maybe they have sign up over internet.

Thanks for info.
online signup
Jul 29th 2018, 05:09 PM   #7
 victor's Avatar
 
  Aug 2016
  battleground, wa

  i have an 06 vxt1300 and an 01 r1 champions edition
Thank you. Been searching for parts. So far no joy. Will call around more tomorrow. Maybe better luck being monday....
Jul 29th 2018, 05:56 PM   #8
 Rusty Nail's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Sandy

  2013 Spyder
My two cents here.

You are on a road trip and you THINK you know what has failed. Clutches can go out suddenly but usually have symptoms first which WOULD help diagnose. But then why would you hit the road with symptoms. So my bet is that this out of the blue. Now maybe this problem is EXACTLY what you think it is. And maybe you find the right parts on the road. But since you are on the road. And MAY not know what the EXACT problem even is. Would it not be extremely risky to source and purchase parts before even being SURE what the problem is and what PARTS and TOOLS you will need to make repairs?
Jul 29th 2018, 06:34 PM   #9
 MotoDan's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Olympia

  2014 KTM 690 / BMW R1150 GS
In an emergency ive shifted without a clutch, starting out is alittle rough, get the bike moving like youre going to push start it, and jam it into gear. As you start it....the rest of the gears will shift semi smooth at the right rpm..
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Jul 29th 2018, 08:47 PM   #10
 victor's Avatar
 
  Aug 2016
  battleground, wa

  i have an 06 vxt1300 and an 01 r1 champions edition
Thanks for all the input ... I was pushing pretty hard up a hill, wasn't riding the clutch, but felt it start slipping. Backed out of the throttle and just went slower and slower until it wouldn't go. I would not have taken off on a trip if I had any concerns about its mechanical ability to make the trip. Brakes were getting low, threw a new set on before leaving as a just in case.

Although without tools, and without tearing it down, there is no way to sa "it's absolutely this ...", I'm pretty sure it's the clutch pack. I've made the trip past bend a few times with this bike to go camping, I have 78k miles on the bike. It's never left me stranded and Im pretty aware of how it "feels" while riding and under power.

I have bought a roadside assistance policy and will get towed to a bigger town tomorrow where I might have access to tools/parts.

Thank you all for the suggestions... I will update the post as soon as I tear it down ... if anyone cares to know the diagnosis /repair.
Jul 29th 2018, 09:15 PM   #11
 WarpShatner7's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Here

  R1200ST, CB350
Are you sure there is no clutch adjustment remaining at either end? A knurled knob, jam nut or adjustor ring at the lever end, and/or some similar adjustment at the engine end? Is there any slack at all remaining at the lever? I've just read a few forum pages on your bike and there should normally be a small amount of play. If there isn't then there may be friction material available in your clutch and you'll only need to slacken a bit to get it.

I've had the problem you're having -- clutch started slipping while going over a mountain range. That's where it's particularly likely to go. It was in an '88 Honda Accord with a cable operated clutch; turns out I just needed to turn a knurled knob in a cable that conveniently ran over the top of the engine. Added a bit of slack and I was good to go until I could get it serviced.
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Edited by WarpShatner7 on Jul 29th 2018 at 09:44 PM
Jul 30th 2018, 07:38 AM   #12
 curve addict's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Des Moines, WA

  ...1987 Yamaha FZR1000...
I second this diagnostic check. As a mechanic, over the years I have seen tight cables cause a number of clutches to begin slipping. If ignored, the tight cable will cause clutch failure.

Give it a shot; the clutch may still have some life left in it.

If you have already done this, victor, my apologies for pestering you. We on this side of the screen can't know what you know, or what you have done, until you tell us.
Jul 30th 2018, 07:28 PM   #13
 Halbie's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  PDX

  2018 Kawasaki Z900RS
Quote:
Originally Posted by curve addict
I second this diagnostic check. As a mechanic, over the years I have seen tight cables cause a number of clutches to begin slipping. If ignored, the tight cable will cause clutch failure.


Is here an easy way to explain why a tight cable would cause slipping and adding slack fixes it? Sorry for noob question, but Iím interested in understanding this.


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Jul 30th 2018, 07:48 PM   #14
 MarvTravis's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Kirkland, WA

  Kawasaki ZX-14
When the clutch lever is pulled, it separates the clutch plates to disengage the drive train. When the clutch lever is relaxed, the clutch plates are allowed to compress and engage the drive train.

If the clutch cable remains tight when the clutch lever is relaxed, the clutch plates are not allowed to fully compress, but may remain partially separated. This does not allow the drive train to fully engage, and can slip.

Please note:

If you have a hydraulic clutch, pulling the clutch lever creates hydraulic pressure in the master cylinder to apply pressure at the slave cylinder, which pushes on a rod to separate the clutch plates.

If you have a mechanical clutch with a clutch cable, pulling the clutch lever pulls on a mechanical lever at the clutch, which pushes on a rod to separate the clutch plates.
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Edited by MarvTravis on Jul 31st 2018 at 12:32 PM Reason: Added information for hydraulic vs. mechanical clutch.
Jul 31st 2018, 05:46 PM   #15
 curve addict's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Des Moines, WA

  ...1987 Yamaha FZR1000...
^

Works for me.

The "tight cable" issue can happen to a hydraulic clutch as well. As the brake fluid ages and the rubber parts wear, sediment can plug the tiny pressure-equalizer hole that you can find in all clutch and brake master cylinders. When this occurs; as the bike heats up, the warming fluid starts to press back against the slave cylinder. The clutch will begin to slip. The quick fix is to briefly open up a pressure bleeder on the slave cylinder and then, if you're very careful, to poke out that very small hole in the master cylinder body with a fine piece of wire. Rebuild or replace your master cylinder as soon as possible. Slave cylinder work also recommended.
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