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Aug 12th 2016, 09:59 AM   #1
 
  Feb 2016
  Washington

Anyone ... alternative to Dunlop q3 ?

I need another rear on my 600.... I've been running Q3 dunlops and I have a newish front, but the rear is about gone again...Second one since spring.... So, I'd like to try another tire and I kinda think I should keep at least the same brand and size.... So what's the next one down for grip, and up for wear? Don't plan on tracking it, but I do go. I just can't keep mounting new rear q3s every month... anybody have any input?
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Aug 12th 2016, 10:08 AM   #2
 ZXtasy's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Moses Lake, WA

  2013 Kawasaki Concours C-14, 2005 ZX-10R Kawasaki (Nekkid), '99 Yamaha TW-200
SO what are you getting for mileage out of the rear just on average? Most Sport touring Tires of the major brands do not give up that much on the track, but often wear twice as long. Still no replacement for good confidence inspiring rubber... cost of admission sometimes.

I know some Ducati SM riders who swear by the Michelin PR4's...and they abuse them!
Aug 12th 2016, 10:11 AM   #3
 TimberMoto's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Salem, Oregon

  Maybe next year?
If you want to stay with Dunlop it would probably be the Roadsmart 2. Otherwise the Michelin Road 4 is my recommendation based on feedback from friends.

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Aug 12th 2016, 10:48 AM   #4
 jared p's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
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Try the Pilot Power 2ct Rear.
Aug 12th 2016, 10:55 AM   #5
 Naza's Avatar
 
  Feb 2016
  Rent'n

  2002 Honda RC51, 2005 Honda RC51
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Originally Posted by jared p
Try the Pilot Power 2ct Rear.
I second this ^^ for I love em. And on my other bike I slapped on Diablo III's which are really nice as well.
Aug 12th 2016, 11:12 AM   #6
 HalcyonSon's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Renton

How many miles on the Q3s? Every month is just insane.

I'm a fan of Pirellis. I've run the older Diablo sport (good/cheap) or newer Angel (better/more expensive) for some time now. 5-6k out of a rear and 10-12k out of a front with primarily commuting and longer weekend rides. They feel stable and have never slipped on me regardless of temperature, precipitation, tar snakes, or gravel. I've known folks to use them for an occasional track day, but that's not their focus.

Stock BT-020s felt hard with bad grip and wore into a horrible squirrely mess. Pilot Powers turned in too sharp for my taste. I tried a set of Diablo Rosso once that were great dry and warm, but frightening wet and cold. The Diablo Rosso and the Powers had short lives. Not ideal for commuting at all.
Aug 12th 2016, 12:10 PM   #7
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  Jan 2016
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Originally Posted by HalcyonSon
How many miles on the Q3s? Every month is just insane.

I'm a fan of Pirellis. I've run the older Diablo sport (good/cheap) or newer Angel (better/more expensive) for some time now. 5-6k out of a rear and 10-12k out of a front with primarily commuting and longer weekend rides. They feel stable and have never slipped on me regardless of temperature, precipitation, tar snakes, or gravel. I've known folks to use them for an occasional track day, but that's not their focus.

Stock BT-020s felt hard with bad grip and wore into a horrible squirrely mess. Pilot Powers turned in too sharp for my taste. I tried a set of Diablo Rosso once that were great dry and warm, but frightening wet and cold. The Diablo Rosso and the Powers had short lives. Not ideal for commuting at all.
Pilot Road 4's have a slower turn in and you may like them better and average 8k+ miles a set
Aug 12th 2016, 01:20 PM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

I'd recommend Michelin PR4's or Pirelli Rosso III's. I've ran Pirelli Rosso II's and really liked them. They have been replaced by the Rosso III's now. The PR4's will be better in the rain and should last longer then the Rosso III's but the Rosso III's will have more dry grip.

The Q3's are a great street and track tire but if you never ride the track there other great tires out there. I put Q3's on my ZX10 last March but only have about 1500-1700 street miles on them. But I have 7 track days on them and I ride 2 and sometimes all 3 groups each hour at the track and they still have good grip.
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Aug 12th 2016, 03:20 PM   #9
 
  Feb 2016
  Washington

Thank, everyone. Went with the Road smart 2 from Dunlop...they get good reviews and more importantly, they have the same profile as the Q3, it says on the Net. I've used a lot of the others suggested, thanks. 2-3 k is all I can milk out of a Q3 rear, and if I go Highway for many of those miles, the center goes square....or "cord" shows.... I will report my opinion soon as I do a few Fossil runs...
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Aug 14th 2016, 08:27 PM   #10
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  Feb 2016
  Washington

I'm late to the party, but the Bridgestone T30 Evo's are pretty good. I get about 5500 from a rear and about 8000 from a front. The price is very good for a tire of that caliber.

I'm frequently tempted to run sport tires, but have gotten dismal mileage from them, like 2600 from a rear tire. OUCH!

I'll be interested to hear what you think about the RoadSmarts.
Aug 14th 2016, 09:49 PM   #11
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  Jan 2016
  Se Portland

  A black one
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Originally Posted by Damon Mon Wai
I'd recommend Michelin PR4's or Pirelli Rosso III's. I've ran Pirelli Rosso II's and really liked them. They have been replaced by the Rosso III's now. The PR4's will be better in the rain and should last longer then the Rosso III's but the Rosso III's will have more dry grip.

The Q3's are a great street and track tire but if you never ride the track there other great tires out there. I put Q3's on my ZX10 last March but only have about 1500-1700 street miles on them. But I have 7 track days on them and I ride 2 and sometimes all 3 groups each hour at the track and they still have good grip.
You are dead on from what ive seen. Beth abd I go through 8 sets of street tires a year or more. The q3 and rosso corsa are both excelent feel and stick but I only get 2500 miles on q3, less on corsa and she gets about 2k.

Road 4 may well be the perfect street tire for the northwest and the only tire Ive seen 7k on. My only issue is the lean angle on the front is less than the supersports so I run at the edge where the q3 leaves me a nice safety strip. Totally superior in cold and wet.

I went with the rosso 3 this time and im so glad I did. They feel excelent like the corsa and I comfortable getting over on them immediately. They havent triggered my traction control once yet and the mold lines are still showing at 300 miles so wear looks promising. May have fixed my irritation with supersport tires wearing out too fast to be practical.
Aug 15th 2016, 03:17 PM   #12
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Dragon
i know the discussion is over, but I recently went out of my normal tire choices and got Metzler Sportec M3's for a CBR900RR because it has a 16" front. I have run PR4's and of course those Battleax OEM tires. I really, really like the M3's and they were - ahem - cheap at BikeBandit.com. Like - really. I did not like the PR4's on a lightweight bike (690 Duke).
Aug 19th 2016, 04:02 PM   #13
 
  Feb 2016
  Washington

Promised to get back with a report on the Dunlop's after a Fossil...went today, the usual 8mi, etc. The Road smart II felt just like a good Q3... Surprised but it also was better than a Q3 on tarsnakes or painted lines. 250 miles, maybe 1/2" of chicken strips...still has the feelers on most of the tire...it was the best possible day for a more durable compound, great match with my q 3front...��������
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Aug 19th 2016, 06:46 PM   #14
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  Feb 2016
  Washington

Quote:
Originally Posted by gnarly928
Promised to get back with a report on the Dunlop's after a Fossil...went today, the usual 8mi, etc. The Road smart II felt just like a good Q3... Surprised but it also was better than a Q3 on tarsnakes or painted lines. 250 miles, maybe 1/2" of chicken strips...still has the feelers on most of the tire...it was the best possible day for a more durable compound, great match with my q 3front...��������
Rock Dodger wonders how gnarly928 could have any chicken strips, much less 1/2"...
Aug 20th 2016, 06:50 AM   #15
 
  Feb 2016
  Washington

No R1 lights in my mirrors?...

....or waaaaay out in front.
Actually I didn't really have anyone to play with after Marie turned back in Maupin, so I was on "good behavior"....
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