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Benjam97 May 10th 2017 08:11 PM

Concours 14
 
Anyone ride a Kawasaki Concourse 14? I'm looking into picking up a 2010 model. My CBR1100XX sadly will not do for riding 2 up long distance.

Thumperpilot May 10th 2017 09:30 PM

I have a friend who rode the last gen concourse and he traveled extensively with his wife on it. I don't know any with the later model as he switched to a fjr1300.

GPD323 May 11th 2017 03:40 AM

Go here to find your answers, great group.

Concours Owners Group (COG) Forum - Index

ZXtasy May 11th 2017 04:09 AM

Just bought a 2013 a month ago, very reminiscent of my 97 BMW RT as far as riding position and passenger interface. IMHO, it is still on the sporty side of touring, and is not that far removed from a XX with bags and backrest setup properly. It does offer more wind protection/fairing space and a more upright ride. I will ride solo most of the time, I just now can take more stuff with me than on my ZX-10 in 'touring' mode, and will likely carry that hefty load with somewhat less alacrity than on said Zed.

I rented a then new GL-1800 and rode around the dirty south for three days with the better half one time....now that is comfy, fully featured 2 up traveling!

KRUKOV May 11th 2017 08:59 AM

I ride an 09 & love it, awesome machine!
Couple things to note; if riding 2 up your passenger will be way more comfortable if you get the passenger pegs lowering kit (4" lower) from Advanced Sort Touring. Cee Bailey windsheild makes big difference cutting down on wind buffeting. I've found that going to Michelin Pilot Road 4's (not GT's) & replacing the stock rear profile (190/50) and going to a 190/55 made huge improvements! I've logged over 40K mi on several sets of PR4's & in my opinion there is no better tire for that bike You also get the versatility of a remote preload adjuster for the rear which is really nice to dial up or down for carrying your passenger or heavy luggage. Once tuned with PC 5 & pipe their a great all around bike! The c14 is amazingly nimble for it"s size although having a long wheelbase & a lot of heft limits it's capabilities on a tight circiut but you open up those sweepers & give the C14 a little room to stretch her legs I promise she'll put a nice big smile on your face!

Sentinel May 11th 2017 12:23 PM

I bought a new one a few weeks ago.
Just.Wow.
It's heavy though.
Most comfortable long-distance ride I've had. I also had a Blackbird a few years ago. Totally different deal.
The C14 is sort of a high-speed tourer. Seems to settle-in at right around 78-80 and just sort of hum. Way, way smooth.
If you want passenger peg lowering links and handlebar risers, I've got both. I like the stock position better. My bike came with them, and I took them off.
The OEM tires are meh. With @ 2500 miles my rear has a noticeable flat spot, and the new Angel GT rear is on the way.
The total plastic wraparound fairing makes some maintenance tasks hard. You don't even want to know what it takes to get at the air filter, but it does an excellent job of keeping wind off you.
I am super happy with the purchase.
Just a superb bike.
No cruise control though, but I put one of those little wing thingies on the throttle grip, and it works like magic.
I hear some folks don't like the linked brakes on the pre-'15 models. I barely notice them on my 2015 though. The brakes do a superb job at stopping a heavy bike.
It's just a freaking pleasure to ride.

Longrides May 11th 2017 12:38 PM

Often wonder how they compare to an FJR.

MotoDan May 11th 2017 02:27 PM

You can get all you're questions answered right here, no need to surf other sites. Nobody can match us.

Sentinel May 11th 2017 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longrides (Post 35257)
Often wonder how they compare to an FJR.

way, way better.

[IMG]http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/...503_103539.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/a...f/dirtyfjr.jpg[/IMG]

ZXtasy May 11th 2017 04:41 PM

ANd bar risers, if you get one and want those, I have some to make you a deal on that came with my bike. The LAST thing I want to do on this power house is lean back (but plenty owners do) and stick my legs out front! I may even make a tubular handlebar conversion so I can go a tad lower on the lean forward, but that is just me.

Have ridden BMW RT, FJR, and this bike seems far superior. Plus I have a thing of for big K.

GPD323 May 11th 2017 04:42 PM

This site has nothing the COG won't blow out of the water information wise. I like this forum and have been a member since 2006.

But if you want the real deal, the real answers and want to learn as much as possible about the C14. You have to visit the COG forum. Simple as that.

Google also.

And yes I own a C14.
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...psa25d2947.jpg

Rustydust May 11th 2017 06:28 PM

[QUOTE=Sentinel;35264]way, way better.


Now that is certainly a matter of opinion!

Number one riding buddy just sold his 2008 Concours after another trip to the dealer for repairs. This time a leaky radiator. Did not actually sell it but traded it in on a leftover 2016 FJR 1300. Now he cannot get that shit eating grin off his face ever again I dont think.

Benjam97 May 11th 2017 08:28 PM

Thanks for the info! I'm gonna have to track one down for a test ride. The Bird has been an excellent machine. I ride spirited but not hard in the twisties. I'm ok with a heavy bike (the Bird is no feather weight) I do my own work on my bikes so I'm not afraid to strip a fairing down.

Benjam97 May 11th 2017 08:31 PM

That picture in front of the cooling tower is cool! Where is that?

RC65 May 11th 2017 10:20 PM

I just bought a '16 FJR1300, but did take the Concours for a testride and sat on several. My impression was that the Concours is considerably more bulky and heavy-feeling, as compared to the comparatively more trim (and I think more attractive) FJR. Once on the road, they have similar performance qualities, which I suppose is little surprise given their fundamental similarities, but once again I did favor the FJR for rider ergonomics, a slightly more nimble handling characteristic, better features, etc. I will say that the Concours seemed to have a little more initial grunt, but overall the power delivery seemed comparable and the overall difference of little real note.

I think the Concours is a fine bike and I'm sure you'd be pleased with one...I did, however, favor the FJR1300 by a good degree, so I'd suggest at least checking out the model before you make a decision.

mcrider007 May 12th 2017 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC65 (Post 35282)
I just bought a '16 FJR1300, but did take the Concours for a testride and sat on several. My impression was that the Concours is considerably more bulky and heavy-feeling, as compared to the comparatively more trim (and I think more attractive) FJR. Once on the road, they have similar performance qualities, which I suppose is little surprise given their fundamental similarities, but once again I did favor the FJR for rider ergonomics, a slightly more nimble handling characteristic, better features, etc. I will say that the Concours seemed to have a little more initial grunt, but overall the power delivery seemed comparable and the overall difference of little real note.

I think the Concours is a fine bike and I'm sure you'd be pleased with one...I did, however, favor the FJR1300 by a good degree, so I'd suggest at least checking out the model before you make a decision.

After owning 2 C14s (2008 and 2010) and 4 FJRs (2005, 2008, 2013A, and 2014 ES), I think that is very good advice. I have had a C14 and a FJR sitting side by side in my garage since 2007 and while the C14s match the FJRs very well when comparing like generations, the FJR has been in its 3rd generation since 2013 while the C14 is deeply stuck in its 2nd generation. My 2010 C14 has a Penske shock and ZX-14 fully adjustable forks, both of which are significant improvements in ride and handling but it still is not as good as the bone stock 2013A and 2014ES FJRs. The C14 is also top heavy in comparison to the FJRs and can be a handful at slow speeds especially when riding with a passenger.

The C14 does beat the FJR is top end power if that is important to you and it also appears that even more power is available through out the rpm range if the motor is re-flashed (at a cost of about $375). I personally don't think its necessary on a touring bike, both the FJR and the C14 have more power than you can sanely use on public roads.

ZXtasy May 12th 2017 08:39 AM

Very well said mcrider, and I have seen how you ride that FJR, no slouch!. After sitting on the Connie it makes the FJR feel even lighter and smaller, but still a fun tourer. I can't believe it took Yamaha so long to add a 6th gear, the ones I rode were both still the 5 gear models and it really needed it. True, power and handling can always be maximized...if one wants. I think 375 for a Steve's reflash is ridiculously high IMHO. I got my C14 to have a more sedate ride, so I think I will leave the suspension and power as is to keep me from trying to ride it like my ZX-10. If I need scalpel sharp handling and wheelies I will just ride it, LOL.

OP, if you ever end up in Moses Lake before you decide, you will be welcome to try mine.

mcrider007 May 12th 2017 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZXtasy (Post 35289)
I can't believe it took Yamaha so long to add a 6th gear, the ones I rode were both still the 5 gear models and it really needed it.

Whether the FJR really needed a 6th gear is still a subject of debate but it certainly is not a negative. However, the C14's 6th gear is far too tall (3.4:1) to be very useful, especially if you are trying to extend range in its relatively small 5.8 galleon tank. I get better fuel economy in 5th gear about 80 percent of the time, especially when riding double; into even a slight head wind; or up a slight grade. Obviously, having a overdrive 6th gear is great when going downhill or a enjoying a nice tail wind. ;)

RC65 May 12th 2017 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcrider007 (Post 35292)
Whether the FJR really needed a 6th gear is still a subject of debate but it certainly is not a negative.

Agreed. I'm very happy that I waited until the '16 model year to pick my FJR up. Some may chalk the change to six gears to more a marketing gimmick than a substantive change, and while I’ll grant you it’s just a couple hundred RPMs lowering in sixth, it was enough a change (for me) and/or justification to push me over the edge that I was already teetering upon and finally pull the trigger on one. I took a '15 on a couple test rides last year, and the five-speed gearbox concerned me as I’d already sold a bike, an '08 Vulcan 900 Custom, in '12 because the revs were too high on the highway. The test rides suggested perhaps 5th as a top gear wasn’t too bad, but it didn’t seem ideal. Six gears on the '16, on the other hand, does, and I gotta say I'm really pleased to have it. Oh, and the LED lighting and slipper clutch upgrades for '16 are just icing on the cake. :cool:

Btw, Mcrider, I'm curious: Why do you have two such similar bikes (the FJR and Concours) -- you mention, "I have had a C14 and a FJR sitting side by side in my garage since 2007." Both great bikes, of course, but I am curious why someone would have two such very similar bikes (as opposed to having for a second bike, for example, a cruiser or a naked sportsbike or adventure bike or a retro (e.g. Bonneville) or etc etc.?

Sentinel May 12th 2017 12:39 PM

The C14 _is_ a bigass bike, and you have to take that into account.
6th gear is in fact freaking tall. I tach about 3600 at 80mph in 6th.
But I like that. I use more of the gears on this bike than I have on any other bike. Sometimes I actually ride around in 4th rather than just passing through it.
I think if weight is important to you the FJR is worth a test ride.
I have not flashed my ECU because I haven't got many miles on my C14 and honestly it has way more pull than anyone really needs already, but I am certain I will have it done over this coming winter because why not?

mcrider007 May 12th 2017 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC65 (Post 35294)
Btw, Mcrider, I'm curious: Why do you have two such similar bikes (the FJR and Concours) -- you mention, "I have had a C14 and a FJR sitting side by side in my garage since 2007." Both great bikes, of course, but I am curious why someone would have two such very similar bikes (as opposed to having for a second bike, for example, a cruiser or a naked sportsbike or adventure bike or a retro (e.g. Bonneville) or etc etc.?

Good question...simple answer is that I am single...therefore I can. :D I normally have 3-5 bikes at a time since I seem to be more skilled in buying bikes than selling them and it is convenient to have a backup touring bike...and a adventure bike...sometimes a sports bike (last one was a ZX-14), and a loaner bike. My girl friend prefers the C14 for 2-up (and it has much larger hard bags), I prefer the FJR for solo, and I have a Super Tenere waiting for some future trip (last trip was to Bella Coola, BC and Hyder, AK).

Bald Guy May 12th 2017 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcrider007 (Post 35297)
Good question...simple answer is that I am single...therefore I can. :D I normally have 3-5 bikes at a time since I seem to be more skilled in buying bikes than selling them and it is convenient to have a backup touring bike...and a adventure bike...sometimes a sports bike (last one was a ZX-14), and a loaner bike. My girl friend prefers the C14 for 2-up (and it has much larger hard bags), I prefer the FJR for solo, and I have a Super Tenere waiting for some future trip (last trip was to Bella Coola, BC and Hyder, AK).

I have my Connie for sale on consignment, my Husky in the shop, my Triumph at the training facility. The only bikes in the garage were my Ural and a 1962 Yamaguchi. My wife walked into the garage and yelled "My car will fit!"

Not so fast woman!

RC65 May 12th 2017 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcrider007 (Post 35297)
Good question...simple answer is that I am single...therefore I can. :D I normally have 3-5 bikes at a time since I seem to be more skilled in buying bikes than selling them and it is convenient to have a backup touring bike...and a adventure bike...sometimes a sports bike (last one was a ZX-14), and a loaner bike. My girl friend prefers the C14 for 2-up (and it has much larger hard bags), I prefer the FJR for solo, and I have a Super Tenere waiting for some future trip (last trip was to Bella Coola, BC and Hyder, AK).

Ah. Nice. Color me envious...my budget and garage space -- and, yes, wife --
dicate just one bike for me at a time. You guys with stables of bikes make me jealous.

Need For Speed May 13th 2017 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjam97 (Post 35227)
Anyone ride a Kawasaki Concourse 14? I'm looking into picking up a 2010 model. My CBR1100XX sadly will not do for riding 2 up long distance.

Word to the wise - keep the Blackbird, or you will wish you did.

I have many bikes, but my XX can definitely hold it's own against the more modern bikes :D

Always add to the stable, rather than thin the herd...

Benjam97 May 14th 2017 09:03 PM

I don't suppose anyone would be willing to let me try out their Concourse for a few minutes?

mcrider007 May 14th 2017 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjam97 (Post 35369)
I don't suppose anyone would be willing to let me try out their Concourse for a few minutes?

You can ride mine and with its upgraded suspension and Laam seat its probably the best 2010 C14 you can find......but its in Kennewick. :)

Boatdriver May 15th 2017 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjam97 (Post 35369)
I don't suppose anyone would be willing to let me try out their Concourse for a few minutes?

There are some used ones down at Skagit Powersports

RC65 May 15th 2017 09:32 AM

Ride Motorsports in Woodinville has a used one (black, I believe) on the upper floor that I'm sure they'd let you try out. Ask for Bill...a great salesguy, low pressure and helpful.

NavyDoc27 May 16th 2017 10:22 PM

Yup, I just bought one about a month ago. I ride a CBR1000rr, just sold my ZX14 and I love the Connie. Great bike very sporty handling. It took me a second to get used to the integrated braking, there are two different modes you can select as to how much braking force is applied when the system is activated, it comes on a little more abrupt then what my personal inputs are. I try to be as smooth as butter with all my input's and the integrated system will give you a bit of front end dive when it initially engages. Definitely not a deal breaker the bike is amazing.
[IMG]http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...d%20Connie.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...tz/Connie1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...on14Connie.jpg[/IMG]

Sentinel May 17th 2017 09:42 AM

Huh. I ride a C14 and a CBR as well. Mines a 97 900RR.

I don't even notice the brake linkage, but they reduced the link force on the 2015 bikes.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/UL...=w1657-h932-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/X4...=w1657-h932-no

Benjam97 Aug 5th 2017 08:36 PM

Three months later I finally bought my very own 2008 Concours 14. After finding one for half the price I had been seeing them go for locally, I made the less than sane decision to drive 575 miles right after work, to Nampa Idaho to snag this silver beast before someone else could. If I can figure out how to upload pictures I will share.

ZXtasy Aug 6th 2017 06:13 AM

Congrats! Pin your bags. Pin the throttle.

KRUKOV Aug 6th 2017 09:28 AM

Congrats!
 
CONGRATS your gonna love it!

Sentinel Aug 6th 2017 11:38 AM

Rode to Portland and back from Port Orchard yesterday.

Most of the time right at 80mph.

Averaged 42mpg.

Amazing how many people just move out of your way in the left lane when they see you coming up behind them.

What a great bike.

GPD323 Aug 6th 2017 04:03 PM

Its a great all around bike. Mine is prepped for my next 3500 mile trip. Congrats!

Benjam97 Aug 6th 2017 08:23 PM

That's cause it's so damned big! After spending a few hours on a magical summer afternoon, I think Connie and I are gonna live happily ever after.


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