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Mar 16th 2018, 06:12 AM   #16
 Sentinel's Avatar
 
  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
i had a 690 Duke. same motor. lots (LOTS) of vibrations. the thing left bolts all over the highway. it is also heavy. i think a 690 enduro is probably a great bike, but my heart really wants an updated XR650R. i don't think i'd pay the ten thousand dollars for a used 690. fact is, there just aint no good compromise bike. you need a dirt bike for dirt and a street bike for the street.
Mar 16th 2018, 10:09 AM   #17
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  Jan 2016
  Bremerton, WA

  Anything with two wheels.
These guys have good suggestions. I bought my bike for one reason, performance on singletrack and technical. Its a dirt bike with lights and mirrors. It gets me to my destination without having to load it in the back of a truck. street ridin is not pleasurable with it. Mines a husquvarna, ktm is going to feel the same. 690? meh. the worst of both worlds. They discontinued it. might as well get an adventure bike if you want a 690.
Mar 16th 2018, 11:15 AM   #18
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  Apr 2016
  My Garage

What type of specific riding are you looking into getting into with this? Highway riding at all? mainly city and trail riding with fire roads? or long trips loaded down to get to your riding destination before unloading to hit the trail system?

I might have an option floating around for you in the fathers garage.
if you're interested let me know.

Otherwise... the KTM is a great bike, maintenance is a cost but it's a great bike for it's application.

If you plan on getting something to do street duty with limited forays onto the highway I would suggest getting something north of 400cc.. XR, DRZ, [find a Transalp or a Super Sherpa(Max/Min)]...

I agree that a heavy bike is not fun offroad.. I can attest to that.
It would be nice if Yamaha and even Honda still had some of their older 350cc bikes still, the TT350 and XR350 would be nice with modern frames, suspension and a freshened power plant...

But I digress...
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Mar 16th 2018, 06:00 PM   #19
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
if yamaha would throw that fz07 motor into an adv bike we might have something.
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Mar 16th 2018, 06:48 PM   #20
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  Jan 2016
  NW

Yamaha has been selling a mid size ADV bike in other countries, but they haven't brought them to the US yet. link->Yamaha XT 660 Tenere

The Tenere 700 would be a great bike, if they ever make them for the public.. (adapted from the FZ-07)



https://www.cycleworld.com/yamaha-te...d-raid-concept

Edited by Scribbles on Mar 16th 2018 at 06:50 PM
Mar 18th 2018, 01:06 PM   #21
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  Jan 2016
  Muklilteo, WA

  Suzuki DL1000, Honda XR650R, KTM 250 XC-W
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Originally Posted by 16Z1000
I know I said under 500cc,but does anyone have an opinion on the Ktm 690 enduro R? Seems to be some good prices on a few 2017 hold overs. I'm not looking for a bike to do extreamly trails on,not that young anymore,but still young enough to want to have fun. I'm not too worried about the power,back in the day I raced on a CR500,but I'm wiser now.
The 690 is a great dual sport, like my XR650R it has the power to run on the freeway comfortably but still handle single track without excess maintenance. The 690 has less suspension than the XR, but smooth fuel injection, so it is a little better on and not as good off road. I would look for a left over '17 Husky 701 Enduro, as these have the improved, smoother, and more powerful engine compared to the 690.
Mar 18th 2018, 08:26 PM   #22
 
  Mar 2018
  Olympia

  2016 Kawasaki Z1000,2015 Polaris sportsman XP1000,2017 Ktm 690 enduro R
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Originally Posted by PeteN95
The 690 is a great dual sport, like my XR650R it has the power to run on the freeway comfortably but still handle single track without excess maintenance. The 690 has less suspension than the XR, but smooth fuel injection, so it is a little better on and not as good off road. I would look for a left over '17 Husky 701 Enduro, as these have the improved, smoother, and more powerful engine compared to the 690.
Great,you had to throw out another suggestion. I had myself convinced on a 6 day Ktm exc500. I've been kinda looking at that husky 701. Think I'll just shop till I feel the deal is right. Any of those 3 I'm sure would be great.
Anyone looking into buying a 4x4 quad? 125 miles. 2015 Polaris sportsman XP 1000 esp.
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Mar 19th 2018, 09:29 AM   #23
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  Jan 2016
  Muklilteo, WA

  Suzuki DL1000, Honda XR650R, KTM 250 XC-W
The 500 is a better trail bike, but if you plan to do much road mileage, the 701 would be better and much less maintenance.
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Mar 20th 2018, 08:38 AM   #24
 
  Mar 2018
  Central Oregon

  2017 KTM 1290 Super Duke R, 2013 KTM 500exc, 2010 KTM 690 Enduro, 1997 TL1000s
The 500 vs 690 question has been going on for many years. I have both. Took 690 on all routes of OBCDR, as did 2 others I was riding with, performed flawlessly. I've taken the 690 on 1500 miles of Baja, also excellent. Next time I took my 500 to Baja for 1500 miles.

You would do well with either. I will say I was not sold on the 500 requiring 600 mile oil changes and did all 1500 miles in Baja without touching it. Oil analysis at Blackstone proved me wrong, definitely needs to stick to 600 mile interval as much as possible. If you are a more casual rider, while 50 lbs heavier, the 690/701 might be best for you.

...and after the 500 went to Baja, I realized I don't need both, 690 will be sold this spring, the 500 is just better when the path gets narrow or gnarly.
Mar 21st 2018, 07:51 AM   #25
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  Jan 2016
  Bremerton, WA

  Anything with two wheels.
. I will say I was not sold on the 500 requiring 600 mile oil changes and did all 1500 miles in Baja without touching it. Oil analysis at Blackstone proved me wrong, definitely needs to stick to 600 mile interval.

want to elaborate on this? I have been thinking about this as well. : )
Mar 28th 2018, 01:41 AM   #26
 
  Mar 2018
  Olympia

  2016 Kawasaki Z1000,2015 Polaris sportsman XP1000,2017 Ktm 690 enduro R
Well this was all going to revolve around me selling my quad,I posted it on CL and didn't get any calls on it. Then I told my wife my plan,I was doing it to appease her,you know,no new toy unless I got rid of one. She didn't like that idea and told me I can't sell my quad.......I really didn't want to anyway...then she said if you want a bike just get one . So I'm looking,I have a great deal going on a 2017 Ktm Exc 350f brand new,but I kinda want a 500,but don't want to pay $11000 for one,I can get the 350 for $9500 Otd. Going to try and hold off for a low mileage used 500,but I don't want to miss out on that 350 price either. Oh and after I told my wife about listing my quad,I got 5 inquiries and 2 guys really wanted it at my full asking price.
Mar 28th 2018, 08:51 PM   #27
 
  Apr 2016
  WA

When you get a nimble dual sport let me know, I will take you on a tour of capital forest.
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Mar 29th 2018, 04:09 AM   #28
 
  Mar 2018
  Olympia

  2016 Kawasaki Z1000,2015 Polaris sportsman XP1000,2017 Ktm 690 enduro R
This is driving me crazy. after reading more on the Exc 350 & 500 I'm kinda leaning away from them,that 10 hr oil change just doesn't work for me,it not the cost,it's the pain in the ass. So now I'm back into thinking of the 701 or the 690, I'm not looking for an all out race bike,I used to race when I was a kid,last bike was a CR500. The 701 is nice but they are spendy,found a new 2017 Ktm 690 enduro for $6995,yep that's right,but after all the fees it's up to $8900 plus I'd have to have it shipped and then pay the tax and other Wa state fees. I'll find out today what kinda deal I can get on one that's more local. But as of right now I'm pretty sure it'll be a Ktm 690,all the reviews I've read are good.
Mar 29th 2018, 04:14 AM   #29
 
  Mar 2018
  Olympia

  2016 Kawasaki Z1000,2015 Polaris sportsman XP1000,2017 Ktm 690 enduro R
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Originally Posted by Ryanthegreat1
When you get a nimble dual sport let me know, I will take you on a tour of capital forest.
How nimble does it need to be,think the Ktm 690 enduro will be too big? Looking forward to riding up there, I live just across highway 8 by the Rock candy mountain riding area. It'd take me 3 minutes from my house to get there.
Mar 29th 2018, 06:49 AM   #30
 
  Apr 2016
  WA

Plenty! Rode a lot of miles out there on a 650.

Jelly you live so close. I am about 10 minutes away from both Waddell and Rock Candy.
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