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Apr 11th 2018, 11:59 PM   #1
 
  Mar 2018
  Olympia

  2016 Kawasaki Z1000,2015 Polaris sportsman XP1000,2017 Ktm 690 enduro R
Adventure helmets?

Full face with a shield or goggles? I'm getting a new Ktm 690 and I'll need a new helmet for both on and off the road. What's the better way to go full shield or goggles,I'm talking about the adventure helmets,not a street helmet. I like the idea of the full shield cause there's no way you can get a bee sting to the face like you could with goggles. Is there anything negative about the full shielded ones? Do they fog up?
Apr 12th 2018, 07:58 AM   #2
 olyk12's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Olympia

  Tiger 800 XCX, DRZ400SM, Sherco 290st, Harley 350 Sprints, etc
I wear glasses so I looked for a convertible helmet. I chose Scorpion EXO-AT950 from Atomic Moto in Bend Oregon. You can configure it for full shield or goggles use and also has built in sun shade. It serves me well as I ride a good blend of on and off road.
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Apr 12th 2018, 01:54 PM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  NW

Definitely full shield. The need for goggles (IMHO) is pretty rare, and you can always lift the visor (or remove it) to use with goggles.

Most of the time, the dust isn't bad on PNW forest roads. When it is really dusty a two minute gap between riders lets it blow off.

While the pic below makes for good photography, I'd shoot myself before riding in that kind of dust for 8 hrs/day.

One other tip, I carry a rag and a small can (7 oz) of plexus for the times when the visor does get dusty or the sun hits me in the face.


Edited by Scribbles on Apr 12th 2018 at 01:58 PM
Apr 12th 2018, 07:06 PM   #4
 Sentinel's Avatar
 
  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
Is it legit, this adv helmet business?

I mean, most riders are fashionistas, IMO, but it seems like a regular helmet would be better, warmer, safer, than the open-face thing.

Is it about temperature? If you're in LA or SanDiego I get that.

Is that it?
Apr 12th 2018, 07:58 PM   #5
 
  Mar 2018
  Olympia

  2016 Kawasaki Z1000,2015 Polaris sportsman XP1000,2017 Ktm 690 enduro R
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Originally Posted by Sentinel
Is it legit, this adv helmet business?

I mean, most riders are fashionistas, IMO, but it seems like a regular helmet would be better, warmer, safer, than the open-face thing.

Is it about temperature? If you're in LA or SanDiego I get that.

Is that it?
My main issue is,I don't want a bee to get stuck in my helmet between the goggles,where the full face with a shield won't let that happen. But if those full face with a shield get dusty like they say I don't want that either.
Apr 12th 2018, 08:04 PM   #6
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  Jan 2016
  NW

Its kind of a fashion thing.. I have an ADV bike, I better wear an ADV helmet.

Almost all of them have a full face shield and room for goggles so they are convertible. The short beak is kinda nice when the sun hits your shield, especially in the evening. I thnk some of them have a removable beak for long stretches of highway. The beak can catch wind and make your neck tired.

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Apr 12th 2018, 08:20 PM   #7
 
  Mar 2018
  Olympia

  2016 Kawasaki Z1000,2015 Polaris sportsman XP1000,2017 Ktm 690 enduro R
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Originally Posted by Sentinel
Is it legit, this adv helmet business?

I mean, most riders are fashionistas, IMO, but it seems like a regular helmet would be better, warmer, safer, than the open-face thing.

Is it about temperature? If you're in LA or SanDiego I get that.

Is that it?
As far as open face helmets. Never on anything.
Apr 12th 2018, 08:21 PM   #8
 
  Mar 2018
  Olympia

  2016 Kawasaki Z1000,2015 Polaris sportsman XP1000,2017 Ktm 690 enduro R
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scribbles
Its kind of a fashion thing.. I have an ADV bike, I better wear an ADV helmet.

Almost all of them have a full face shield and room for goggles so they are convertible. The short beak is kinda nice when the sun hits your shield, especially in the evening. I thnk some of them have a removable beak for long stretches of highway. The beak can catch wind and make your neck tired.

That's a nice looking adventure helmet.
Apr 13th 2018, 08:26 AM   #9
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
so, the beak thing, which seems to be the point, a fashion reference to dirt bike helmets, is actually a PITA, and must be removed?

is that it?

it seems like the adv helmet is just like the adv bike - a compromise that is the worst of both worlds.
Apr 13th 2018, 08:36 AM   #10
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  Sep 2016
  Seabeck

  Africa Twin
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentinel
so, the beak thing, which seems to be the point, a fashion reference to dirt bike helmets, is actually a PITA, and must be removed?

is that it?

it seems like the adv helmet is just like the adv bike - a compromise that is the worst of both worlds.
Wish there were a "unlike" button.
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Apr 13th 2018, 08:41 AM   #11
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
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Originally Posted by Mudslinger
Wish there were a "unlike" button.
don't take it personal, bro. actually, that AT you ride is one of the bikes I am considering buying. the only thing is, I would never take it off-road, except maybe down a fire road (until the oem tires are shot, because i'd get street tires for it).

it's just an opinion. we all got em.

as a peace offering, I give you one Poncharello.



and the beak question is still outstanding.

Edited by Sentinel on Apr 13th 2018 at 08:48 AM
Apr 13th 2018, 08:57 AM   #12
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  Sep 2016
  Seabeck

  Africa Twin
I have a removable beak. It takes about 5 seconds to snap it off or on. I have found it to be incredibly useful at these latitudes during the fall and early winter when the sun barely reaches above the horizon. I try to stay off the freeways but it doesn't bother me with it on up to around 90 mph. depends on the helmet I guess.
I agree with you. The AT works well off road but you better be able to pick up 530 lbs or she's gonna lay right where you dropped her. I bought it because it goes anywhere only limited by my (lack of)skill level.
Apr 13th 2018, 09:08 AM   #13
 
  Mar 2018
  Olympia

  2016 Kawasaki Z1000,2015 Polaris sportsman XP1000,2017 Ktm 690 enduro R
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Originally Posted by Mudslinger
I have a removable beak. It takes about 5 seconds to snap it off or on. I have found it to be incredibly useful at these latitudes during the fall and early winter when the sun barely reaches above the horizon. I try to stay off the freeways but it doesn't bother me with it on up to around 90 mph. depends on the helmet I guess.
I agree with you. The AT works well off road but you better be able to pick up 530 lbs or she's gonna lay right where you dropped her. I bought it because it goes anywhere only limited by my (lack of)skill level.
When did they change the name from visor to beak???
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Apr 13th 2018, 09:14 AM   #14
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  Jan 2016
  Des Moines

  M1200S, VFR800, XR650R & GSXR750
I recently picked up an AGV AX-8 EVO on closeout. This is my first "adventure" helmet and I'm pretty happy with it. The only thing it is lacking is a Pinlock shield option. I've used the shield and have used it with goggles and both have their pros and cons.

With the shield, I have a larger field of vision than I have on any helmet I've used before (RF1100 & Defiant). I put an Invision fog insert on it and unfortunately the shields shape seems to cause issues and the insert touches the shield instead of maintaining an air pocket. If it wasn't for that I'd always use the shield. With goggles, I love having the extra airflow around my face, but rain drops that sneak in at 60+mph sting.

For the overall adventure helmet design, I like the bit of shading the beak provides and I like the extra inch or so of space I have between my lips and the chin guard (which I've never had on a standard style full face, maybe a 1cm at the most). I also like how I can remove the beak quickly and have a differently looking helmet (I think they're calling it "naked" and I a naked bike too, so there you go). So basically it can be a MX, adventure or naked helmet depending on the configuration, which scratches my mixing it up itch.

I guess this summer will be the real test; when I get on some logging roads with my friends and we're all kicking up dust. Personally, I'm not worried at all about bees; it's the amount of dust I'll consume on a typical dual sport ride which will decide if I ride with the visor or goggles.
Apr 13th 2018, 09:19 AM   #15
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  Sep 2016
  Seabeck

  Africa Twin
I have the Touratech Aventuro mod. Basically a schuberth with extra vents. I highly recommend it.
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